Madridistas All Over Copa And Euros Collide While Colombians Dominate - The Other Teams Thread

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  1. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    Go back and re-read what I have stated. Where did I state you thought it was okay? Where did I state I didn't reject such advances?

    It is not okay, and I (and others) reject such advances. That doesn't mean the world, media, society, etc.. doesn't see such advances as "harmless" due to me being the vicitm.

    Women can joke about dudes they think are losers hitting on them, being too froward or outright assaulting as well. Doesn't make it right.

    I have outright had women tell me if I grabbed them as a stranger they would be okay with it but not some other guy. Meaning it is literally up for the individual's interpretation.

    The fact that what is heinous isn't is the double standard and the issue we're discussing.
     
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  2. celito

    celito Moderator
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    #3052 celito, Sep 13, 2024
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    Frankly, this is a double standard I don't really mind or care about. Although in certain situations like in a work job scenario, if I go to HR about something if I choose to, I'd expect it to be treated the same way as if it was a woman. And the stalker scenario that @YOUNGSTARS87 described, should definitely be treated the same way and not shrugged off by police. There are definitely different levels and scenarios that changes the situation.
     
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  3. Ssr9

    Ssr9 Member+

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    Both can do it. Those two are pretty interchangeable for that role. Although Tchou is a bit more "stable" in front of the defence. Love Cama though....he has additional virtues that probably shouldn't be wasted at the fixed DM position.
     
  4. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    I definitely understand and agree with most of your point but the fact I am able to brush someone off (in some cases awoman can do this as well) doesn't equalize things.

    The actual reason why it's deemed "okay" is in most of these women's minds they think we have to want them... so because of that when they sexually touch us it's okay because "we want it anyways".

    The reality is not everyone of us feels lucky to have a girl touch us or brags like a loser to anyone who can hear them "I got a girlfriend!!".

    Those men who are more desirable usually don't struggle with the opposite sex (same as women with men) so they have options and aren't desperate for just any connection.

    The issue is women understand this hence why some are perfectly fine with the "right" guy making such an advance... no differently than a man would be with the "right" woman.

    Where things get muddy is men know not to do so because it's publicly shamed and punished, while many women feel they are all the most desirable and any time they make such an advanced the guy is lucky to be the vicitm.

    This is why they aren't empathetic and this is why loser bum men think something is wrong with you for not wanting such advances because they feel they would be lucky to experience such.
     
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  5. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    The police scenario is wild man. I have been stalked when I played professionally and after retiring. My brother has been as well.

    Very powerless situation for a man. You can't react strongly, you have to avoid acknowledgement and all the while you're being hounded, called non-stop, harassed and even at times attempting to incite a reactions to incriminate.

    You go to police and they laugh. You attempt to file a report and they laugh. You basically have to wall away from it and just try to avoid the situation long enough for the person to lose interest and fixate elsewhere.
     
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  6. celito

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    In this situation, if it was male cops, it's still a bit of a male culture problem though. If it was female, then you could point at hypocrisy.
     
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  7. J-Mezzy

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    I bet it was men
     
  8. natenate101

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    Dec 16, 2006
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    Time to move on y’all.
     
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  9. J-Mezzy

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  10. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    It has been both.

    As you can see the issue I have with you is you're hardwired to believe it is just one way but it isn't.

    Anyways, nice healthy discussion. Let's move on as nateetc said.
     
  11. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

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    No no. I know the women that do this are at fault. I’m saying we play a role on it as well. That’s all I meant mate

    and I only assumed it was men because of the power structure in most police stations more than anything
     
  12. Broadwater Farm

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    There is no limit to what thee ... women ... can accomplish ...

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  13. hector_br

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    Feb 13, 2007
    Think we can all agree that humans from every race, gender, and background have the ability (if not the tendency) to be a major asshole.

    Women can turn your life into hell and leave unharmed. Men are mostly pigs. Black people have enslaved other black people. White people have enslaved other white people. There are gay/trans shooters killing innocents just as bullied white dudes do.

    Media is biased and won't depict that fairly, but that's our world. It's up to us to be nice (without ever bowing down to those horrible horrible people).
     
  14. arcane

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    SA is SA, no matter the gender. Endof.
     
  15. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

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    Orlando
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    South America is still the best at soccer
    No matter what Euros say
     
  16. arcane

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    I meant South Africans are South Africans regardless of gender.
     
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  17. temesgen

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    Jun 27, 2004
    I'm happy to see him stay at his hometown club, nothing to do with barca
     
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  18. 4x4s

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    Manchester United are Absolutely unwatchable
     
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  19. Digital

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    love it, but sadly, winning
     
  20. Hendrix22

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    Nico Paz running circles around Bologna. I have a feeling he might be the revelation of the season in Italy. Como under Fabregas are dangerous.
     
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  21. boeder

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    Too bad Haaland isn't a LW :D
     
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  22. boeder

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    If this is Modric's last season, I hope Nico Paz comes back home..
     
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  23. Seoul Villan

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    Feb 16, 2011
    Do we have a buyback for Paz?
     
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  24. Seoul Villan

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    Feb 16, 2011
    Imagine if we had Mbappe on the left Haaland in the middle and….. a training cone on the right??
     
  25. boeder

    boeder Member+

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    #3075 boeder, Sep 14, 2024
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    Or Rodrygo would join Mbappe on the LW just because..

    I don't think having both Kylian and Erling is doable financially or on the pitch. Between them, I've always preferred Haaland over Mbappe, imo the latter could be past his prime, he overstayed in PSG and fücked himself..

    This version of Mbappe hasn't existed for a while now..
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