Anyone think that the bombing today will hurts Madids chances for the 2012 Olympics? While still far away the location will be decided in the next year or two. Madrid is a strong candidate, along with NY, Rio, Paris and London.
I would not mind bid to Rio. England has planning with Sundail. Its 2006 roughly completion. The sundial will be 40 stories tall. Paris is good and New York's buildings with newness. This diffinetly hurts Madrid.
It hurts Madrid as much as 9/11 hurts NYC. I don't think it will be a major issue, there are many other things to consider. Some think of NYC as the sentimental favorite, simply because of 9/11.
As has been said - it shouldn't unduly damage anything. Especially when compared to the other places going for it. NYC - been attacked in a big way, plus it really shouldn't be ruled out in the future. London - How we haven't been attacked yet is a mystery to me. But I can almost guarantee that there'll be a big one within the next few years. If nothing else, London's on the hitlist. Paris is the favourite anyway - and as they took a different line vis a vis Iraq, in the eyes of some, this could be the decider. However it's position means it's not a million miles away from those willing to blow themselves and others up. Hell, if they've got plans to blow up London - Paris isn't a logistical nightmare for them. And let's not forget the French government have't been trying to outright please Muslims of late have they?
I see it as a hickup, nothing more. I think the question is more how the athorities will respond then the attack itself.
How strong was Madrid's candidacy anyway? Barcelona hosted in 1992 so there's only a 16-year gap. Now, there were only 12 years between LA and Atlanta, but the US is a wee bit bigger than Spain.
I still stick with RIO 2012, for various reasons. - First, South America has never been awarded an Olympics. Its time. Brazil is the perfect country in SA to do it. - ALL LEVELS of government, local, State and National support the games in Rio and funding would not be a problem. - Rio is a beautiful city, if not the most naturally beautiful large city in the World. - Rio is hosting the 2007 PanAm games which is a good prep for the Olympics. - The people of Rio and Brazil love sports and are into many Amateur sports. Unlike most Americans that know little more than NFL, Baseball and basketball. Brazilians follow and watch all types of Olympic sports year round (swimming, volleyball etc) and not only at olympic time. - Rio would be the first city to be able to host all events within cities boundries. - I Live in the NY city area and I just dont see this area being a good one for an Olympics. Traffic is bad enough and added security would make it even more of a hassle. - Lets not forget that the 1996 US games had a terroist attack. Was it ever solved? - London, Paris are great cities but they have "been there done that". Lets step out of the box. I truely think Rio has a great chance to win and I think they will win. Rio site: http://www.rio2012.org.br/ingles/index.jsp
That's my first response, too. But it didn't stop LA or Atlanta, which are also traffic-congested nightmares, but are also seriously deficient in terms of public transportation, esp. compared to NY. Still, I wouldn't object to a Southern Hemisphere Olymics. What are the typical weather conditions in Rio around July and August?
www.weather.com/outlook/travel/climatology/monthly/BRXX0201 I don't know about the humidity, but it seems July and August are the most pleasant months out of the year, with the lower temperature and rainfall averages.
I suppose it depends on who gets blamed for it, no?? I mean, if it's Basque terrorist groups, then I would assume it may make people stop and think about Spain. But if it's Islamic terrorists (as some officials are saying), then probably not.
Skirting the major issue at hand in this thread... London hasn't been or done anything in a loooooong time. It last hosted the Olympics in 1948. Sure we've had a WC and Euro '96, but they were more 'National' things. I know you'd like it to go to Brazil - but I'm also aware you'd like the WC in 2014 to go to Brazil. It's been said before (by me infact ) - that Brazil, by all accounts is the hot favourite for the WC in 2014. With that virtually in the bag, it's unlikely to be getting the Olympics too.
Mac, With all due respect you seem to miss a KEY FACT. Mexico 68 Olympics, Mexico 70 WC Germany 72 Olympics, Germany 74 WC USA 96 Olympics, USA 94 WC If anything that makes Rio a favorite!
Yep, but times are different now and both events are vastly more huge than they were in the 60's and 70's (the 2 US events can be written off as 'it's the US'). In this era, the US is pretty much the only country that potentially host both without excessive harm done to the economy. As much as I'd like the WC to go to Brazil, and as much as I'd like to see the Olympics in Brazil eventually, I can't see it happening. And to answer skip's earlier question, no Madrid wasn't considered to be one of the front runners.
Well keep in mind that FIFA and OIC are different entities and they are unrelated events and decision makers. I dont think one will effect the other as far as decisions go. If anything hosting the 2012 Olympics would only make Brazil structurally even MORE prepared for a WC 2014. It makes sense.
Madrid did not get support from Barcelona, etc. May be this will somehow get Madrid better domestic support.
Sentimental I am. That is interesting! The name escapes but his undoing in North Carolina at gas station. Culpret was up in mountains for years. He came down for supplies and was napped.
SoccerScout, To quote a famous English Spaniard, "Que ?????" Are you under 4 years old ? Where were you in Sept/Oct 2000 ? The only Olympic events not played "within Sydney's boundaries" were a small number of the preliminary rounds of the football games. These were played in other Australian capital cities for reasons that had nothing to do with provisioning of facilities & fans. It just gave all of the country some feelings of ownership of the games. Andy T.
skipshady, Have you and your Northern Hemisphere buddies forgotten that July/August is mid-late WINTER in the Southern Hemisphere ? Best time of the year for the SUMMER GAMES should be somewhere around the same time as Sydney 2000 (spring-summer) in late September / early October, but I'm happy to defer to a RIO local who (I'm sure) would be more knowledgeable on the subject than I. Cheers. Andy T.
Maybe it would help if you bothered to actually read the link I posted before responding: www.weather.com/outlook/travel/climatology/monthly/BRXX0201 Let's just say that Rio won't be hosting the Winter Games anytime before the next Ice Age. Cheers!
Skipshady, I actually did read the link which triggered my response on winter in the southern hemisphere. Agreed on the winter games, but I'd go one step further and suggest that Rio may not host the summer games before the same ice-age. Cheers. Andy T.
Then I'm even more confused as to why you think July-August wouldn't be a good time for a Summer Games, even if it is mi-Winter in Rio. The average high-low for July in Rio is 78-65F. Compare that to the high-low averages for October in Sydney, 72-65F. So not only are July and August the mildest and least rainiest months in Rio, they are actually warmer than Sydney in September/October.
RIO weather is very comfortable in July and August. Even though winter, its still in the 70's most of the time, with occasional upper 60's and 80's. If it is what you say that there were a few soccer games played OUTSIDE of Sydney then I am right!! RIO would STILL be the first city to host all events within city boundries! Hello, McFly!!!
Have you seen the schedule? Will they actually host all the games in Rio? And by Rio, do you mean the city, or the state (or what the area is called)?
http://www.rio2012.org.br/ingles/umaVila/index.jsp All venues will indeed be in Rio city limits and within a 20km radius. Similarly, NYC2012 would also offer a compact Games: (from www.nyc2012.com) A New York Olympic Games will be more compact than any of the last five Games. All but three sports will take place within New York City itself. Eighty-two percent will take place within ten miles of the Olympic Village, and all will take place within twenty miles, something unprecedented in modern Olympic history!