Luis "El Matador" Hernandez comments US players

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by schmidly, Feb 3, 2003.

  1. schmidly

    schmidly New Member

    Dec 12, 2001
    I talked to Luis "El Matador" Hernandez on a flight from Monterrey to Mexico City last night about who he thinks are the best US soccer players. Here's what he said...

    "Jeff Agoos is (was) the best US defender - Very strong and stays in position well". However, he did acknowledge that he had a poor showing at the World Cup.

    "Landon Donavon is the best offensive player because of his vision and speed."

    He didn't seem to know that much about John O'Brien, which I thought was interesting. Also, didn't know whether or not La Volpe could manage the competing Mexican personalities leading up to Germany 2006. Thinks De La Puente was the best Mexican Director Tecnico. And, that the South American soccer league is much better (and more passionate) than both the MLS and Mexican La Liga.

    Anyway, I'm not sure if any of this is worth commenting on, but I thought it would be an interesting post regardless.
     
  2. Ringo

    Ringo Member

    Jun 10, 2002
    Rough and Ready
    Club:
    Yeovil Town FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    did he mention who was the most worthless MLS player ever, or was he shy and didn't like talking about himself?

    but if the dude thinks goose is the best and doesn't know much about o'brien it just confirms what we've all suspected: the guy's a tool.
     
  3. SankaCofie

    SankaCofie Member

    Aug 8, 2000
    Skorgolia
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    maybe its selective memory. the non-call on the JOB handball was so painful to him he's since blocked it out completely. we should make a point to remind him.. at least of the scoreline.. at every opportunity.
     
  4. goyoureddevils

    Dec 17, 2002
    Fort Wayne, Indiana
    Agoos WAS the best defender for quite some time, and JOB plays in Europe, it's doubtful that Hernandez has seen him play much.
     
  5. michael greene

    Oct 31, 2002
    Did he dive out of his seat each time the plane hit a little turbulence?
     
  6. appoo

    appoo Member+

    Jul 30, 2001
    USA
    I'd take Jeff Agoos in his prime over any one of our defenders other than Eddie Pope. Actually I take that back because goose had an exceptional left foot. Remember the qualification campaign where he was perhaps our most consistent player. It was only in the latter part of 2001 and 2002 that he really started to decline. It's sad that such a stalwart American defender is only remembered for a 3 week period.
     
  7. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 15, 1999
    Club:
    Leicester City FC
    Did he mention why the sight of Cobi makes El Tri go insane with rage?
     
  8. tubby_butter

    tubby_butter Member

    Mar 22, 2002
    Providence
    Right on. Not to mention, Luis is probably not watching US qualifiers or friendlies on the TV (JOB didn't play against Mexico). His opinion is most likely coming from his experience in MLS. And in his last year here, Agoos WAS the best defender in the league, and Landon tore the Galaxy a new one.
     
  9. dcc134

    dcc134 Member+

    Liverpool FC
    May 15, 2000
    Hummelstown, PA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    LOL
     
  10. soccerfan

    soccerfan BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 13, 1999
    New Jersey
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    actualy Agoos wasn't a bad defender and player, his only problem was loosing his concentration and falling apart in really important games. I can remember at least 3 games where he cost the nat a goal, either with an og or wrong pass. It was all in the head for him, he can't take preassure
     
  11. GRUNT

    GRUNT Member

    Feb 27, 2001
    Lake Oswego, OR
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Excellent question.

    However, this was a domestic Mexican flight, and such things are accepted in Mexican culture. I have heard their flight attendants actually award PKs (Penalty Kocktails) for the really dramatic ones, you know, with lots of rolling around and grimacing.
     
  12. kasai

    kasai New Member

    Jul 15, 2002
    California
    LOL, so true. Cobi is like catnip for a kitty....
     
  13. SamsArmySam

    SamsArmySam Member+

    Apr 13, 2001
    Minneapolis, MN
    Quite interesting. Surprised at the poor comparison of Mexican La Liga fans with South American counterpart. Would've expected the knock on MLS from Luis, but not the knock on his own countrymen.

    Thank you for the report!
     
  14. prk166

    prk166 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 8, 2000
    Med City
    That's off base. Just because you play professionally doesn't mean you and watch tons of matches from around the world.
     
  15. wu-tang beez

    wu-tang beez New Member

    Apr 19, 2002
    Irving, TX
    Parump Pump. Tip you wait staff :D

    Sig worthy
     
  16. Various Styles

    Various Styles Member+

    Mar 1, 2000
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Luis "El Matador" Hernandez

    Me thinks Luis was talking about the Argie fans..
     
  17. usagoal

    usagoal Member

    Oct 19, 2000
    Las Vegas
    Re: Luis "El Matador" Hernandez

    Various, what do you think about Ramon Morales saying that the US-Mexico rivalry was like America-Chivas?
     
  18. yanks02

    yanks02 New Member

    Mar 19, 2002
    Houston
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    lol, definitly the post of the week:)
     
  19. Ringo

    Ringo Member

    Jun 10, 2002
    Rough and Ready
    Club:
    Yeovil Town FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    no ... but if you are, for example, playing somebody in the world cup don't you think you might know something about who you're playing? scouting report? knowing a key player on your biggest rival?

    also, about goose ... I love goose, but I assumed he was talking about goose currently being our best defender (which he isn't). all time players though, goose certainly ranks up there. god bless the goose.
     
  20. Various Styles

    Various Styles Member+

    Mar 1, 2000
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    US-Mexico Rivalry


    Are you sure Ramon Morales said this, when where and why :eek:

    The Chivas-America is like a special day in Mexican football. While US vs Mex is just another game and is only intense if they meet up in a tournament. I have allways said it if Hondu had been the regional power the USMNT would have never seen Mexico as their rival. Not only that but just about every TFC country sees Mexico as their biggest rival and have celebrations when they defeat el Tri as opposoed to Mexico where beating TFC teams is expected. Dont mean to sound like a snob but lets be honest this region sucked balls for a long time and it has only been recent that Costa Rica and the US have improved. Mexico has also improved (Internationally) but they had allways dominated this region.
     
  21. Kronos

    Kronos Member

    Sep 11, 2002
    California
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I believe Morales was explaining the rivalry that is growing between US/Mexico, as seen throught he players eyes. The players realize the rivalry first because they play it, then the fans.

    My two bits.
     
  22. usagoal

    usagoal Member

    Oct 19, 2000
    Las Vegas
    Re: US-Mexico Rivalry

    Last Sunday on Republica Deportiva. They were asking him how he felt losing not only a quarter-final game in the World Cup but losing it to the US. He said that no matter the situation or how each each team is playing a USA-Mexico game is always a must win game, like a Chivas-America game.
     
  23. nancyb

    nancyb Member

    Jun 30, 2000
    Falls Church, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Did he have anything to say about why his elbow was magically attracted to Sanneh's jaw in Columbus?
     
  24. Rafael Hernandez

    Rafael Hernandez Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2002
    yeah Morales said it and its kind of true. Its not as people care about the game and start watching or even paying attention to it like America and Chivas, but of all international games, its the one that has the most pressure not to lose.
     
  25. fdp

    fdp Red Card

    Oct 24, 2001
    Could schmidly be J.L.G. reborn?
     

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