Lord of the Galácticos - Florentino Perez Thread

Discussion in 'Real Madrid' started by Ananas, Sep 3, 2014.

  1. pramod

    pramod Member+

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    Sep 4, 2006
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    No, it would lose identity and would become slave to laliga and barca walk with stealing away for titles with corrupt referre as new president dance to tune of tebas
     
  2. Hendrix22

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    Feb 28, 2010
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    Flo needs to go
     
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  3. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    That's irrelevant if his folks are still operating on every level. The idea that he leaves and it's a total clear out and everything begins at 0 is a bit naive.

    The club is still operating at a very high level financially and the sporting project isn't lighting money on fire every year.

    I agree that there's shortcomings, but "just go, anybody can do this" is not very realistic considering the proof of the opposite.
     
  4. arcane

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    Aug 18, 2005
    Jupiter
    Flo calling for elections is fake AF. He raised the requiremenent to almost impossible levels and expects opponenets to be ready in less than 10 days.

    Good fiscal management aside, he is holding on to power like Emperor Palpatine.
     
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  5. petros93

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    There are two sides on this. Raising the requirements also ensures that people that are capable and supposedly care for the club can take charge. I'm sure that's not the only reason Florentino made the changes but it's not that simple.
     
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  6. Hendrix22

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    "Only Florentino can do this" is even less realistic. Lets face it the football club is in shambles and its been years of building up to that point.
     
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  7. arcane

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    Aug 18, 2005
    Jupiter
    The checks and balances can be done by a proper board. Unfortunately with Real Madrid, the board are just a bunch of yes men that are elected with the president.
     
  8. fierro

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    I'm not sure about the capable part, we've seen too many time where these quasi celebrities steam roll their way into office off fame and fortune just to prove that there's nothing special about them except their good fortune and luck.


    I will say the requirement does force a candidate to put their money where their mouth and have a whole lot of skin in the game.
     
  9. 4x4s

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    A lot of the deals that benefited the club greatly were by his contacts and political relationships.

    Of course you can operate Real Madrid without him, but it's a different Real Madrid.



    Saying a club that's this big and successful is in shambles shows zero perspective, and the kind of ridiculous entitlement that people often associate with Real Madrid fans.
     
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  10. Hendrix22

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    Feb 28, 2010
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    Interesting, so I guess you could say the same in 2006 when Florentino resigned and argue that there was no reason for him to do that. He was probably being ridiculously entitled then. The club was big and successful then as well, selling a lot of jerseys and filling stadium seats. Thats the goal right?

    If you consider shambles fighting against relegation then we must have different standards. The product I have been seeing on the pitch is unwatchable, the players are completely incompatible, they are fighting among themselves and where do we even begin when it comes to the decisions on managers. But lets start with why have we changed four in one year if the club is doinh so great.

    We are on a downward spiral for a while now and the squad building strategy has been a failure.
     
  11. temesgen

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    Jun 27, 2004
    I thought I saw a post from you the other day suggesting the club wasn't in the best position financially due to stadium cost over runs and other things?
     
  12. 4x4s

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    Of course, but everybody in the sport fell in the same trap and at least the renovation project was "somehow finished", it exploded in cost, but the only way for that not to happen is to not do it. The stadium renovation isn't part of the sporting project, i'm talking strictly players coming and going. In that aspect the team is operated in a somewhat responsible manner overall.

    People bringing up the way Florentino's last stint finished forget that the football world is very very different now, and the squad back then was mostly old, lazy and finished. This squad has a lot of juice to go.

    If you also watch interviews outside of the Bernabeu, you hear criticism about the tone that Florentino sets, but a lot of the people stand by him overall, the Calderon experience did nothing to empower anybody to wish for an alternative.
     
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  13. Hendrix22

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    Florentino must be thanking the stars for Calderon. The case for Florentino is basically Calderon. A guy from 20 years ago.

    But sure the Vinicius and Mbappe partnership has a lot ot juice to go. They are not lazy either, just need to find the right coach for them.
     
  14. temesgen

    temesgen Member+

    Jun 27, 2004
    I wasn't attacking, I was trying to understand the distinction
     
  15. 4x4s

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    The case for Florentino is the guy before him, and the guy after him. The form of the club that you know and like is Florentino's vision, or the club that was effectively bankrupt and had to fend for it's life before he arrived.

    It's always understood as if i hold Florentino in such high esteem, when the main thing i'm doing is accepting that his influence outside of football has very much allowed the club to move in ways it otherwise wouldn't have been able to.

    It's a give and get.

    Everything great with me, i appreciate the dialogue.
     
  16. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    If you were born on the day Figo signed for Real Madrid, you are going to be 26 years old in a month or so.

    Just to put everything in context. The way the club was ran before is basically no option. You can say that modern football only knows Florentino's Real Madrid.
     
  17. Hendrix22

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    Nobody is saying lets do things the way they were done before Florentino. Were saying lets take the good from Florentino and improve on the weaknesses. I dont know why the premise is it we take the bad stuff from Florentino, the good stuff will also automatically go away.
     
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  18. boeder

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    Feb 27, 2013
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  19. 4x4s

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    Because the good stuff is very much tied to the person, not the chair that he holds. The reason other presidents struggle with the finances isn't because Florentino has the golden calculator and others are incompetent, it's unfortunately because a lot of doors are only open to him/his network of long time friends.

    The realistic take is that you'll have to wait for somebody he likes/selects as a long term successor to continue what he's doing.


    Populism and cheap rug pull. The sport thrives through broadcast right deals and advertisement.
     
  20. Lyra

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    #3170 Lyra, May 18, 2026
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    BREAKING: Florentino Pérez & UEFA are in VERY advanced negotiations to make European football available for FREE. A single platform will be responsible for streaming ALL UCL, Europa League and Conference League matches.
    @voz_populi

    JUST IN: José Mourinho will KEEP Antonio Pintus in his coaching staff at Real Madrid. José will bring his own physical trainer as well, but he will also KEEP Pintus. This was Florentino Perez's request, and José ACCEPTED it.
    @latigoserrano
     
  21. fierro

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    Jan 30, 2007
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    LOL, so when it comes to UEFA, broadcasting rights, etc., he's the negotiator in chief, makes demands, sticks to his guns, gets the result and he does it benevolently out of love for the people.


    BUT when it comes to Jose Mourinho then Florentino Perez has to ask for permission and get his approval regarding the employment of club staff and personnel.
     
  22. robertocarlos3

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    Jan 9, 2012
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    lol - let's keep the guy that everyone gets injured with. It's so typical Perez.
     
  23. 4x4s

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    This guy is the biggest scapegoat on the planet for Real Madrid fans.
     
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  24. robertocarlos3

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    Jan 9, 2012
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    Stats show different, no?
     
  25. Bear Crotch

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    Pintus was also at the club where we were winning the game in the 88th minute in high profile matches multiple times a season. So much so that the club was compared to Dracula.
     
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