Those grandpas just make up the numbers in the board. Always been the case for Florentino. It's him and JAS running the show ever since Mou got Valdano sacked.
Well I doubt they make decisions on sporting things and transfers. They (like Florentino) leaves it to the "non-Grandpa" who has seemingly run us down the since he grew in prominence. Hint: It's JAS Anyways just another reminder to laugh at anyone who says on this forum or any online platform who says we can be patient, develop players with time, use year(s) for growth without a need for constant trophies. Arda is a guy who is years away but he has the flashes. He ain't it right now though but with how we process we will soon "Ship him out" and some basement personnel director will clamor for the next tweeners they will say will fix us like Franco.. right.
The one thing you can’t blame Perez and JAS is trying to reproduce something that successfully worked. And that’s buying these (considerable) cheap young players and allowing them shine in Real Madrid. It worked with vini and Rodrigo and they (the grandpas) have been trying to make that happen again. The problem is that the current doesn’t have the backbone of Ramos, modric, kroos or a start in the CR level to accompany these young players. and the previous generation of “young” players, ow that they are the “older” players, have become stale, static, not consistent and for sure not leaders. It worked once, but it is not working now, just the kind of scenarios that Perez is bad at.
I can't be too critical of our transfer policy. A lot of our personnel issues came from serious injuries. We took a gamble last year and it didn't work out. We quickly rectified that by signing 3 defenders in the summer. Main thing Perez has got wrong from a transfer perspective is, very arguably, pursuing Mbappé over Haaland or Kane. The main thing to be critical about is the absolute trashy classlessness Perez has injected into this club as his faculties decline. It's got so rotten it's got onto the pitch.
It’s one of the things. I wrote about it like 3-4 years ago that vini and mbappe is not going to work - and unfortunately I’m right about this. Our all defense is a $hit show. Allowing militao to stay with all his injuries, same for Mendy, same for Alaba. Rudi was washed at the end of 2024 season. Trent was known to the whole world to be injury prune, yet our “medical team” didn’t saw it. then they added young players who had no leaders to learn from.
Again, I can see Mbappe not being a leader, but at the very least he doesn't lead you into a dead end. The people setting the tone for a team are setting a bad example. We were supposed to believe that Carvajal, Fede, Jude and Vinicius would be seeing an example, but between a reminder of father time and reliability, a player looking for his own role in the team, constant night life rumors, and pure chaos on the field, none of them has presented himself as a voice or as the personality that leads the team. Kane himself is a more laid back, don't talk, just ball dude. He lights up when he talks NFL, which is always funny to me how enthusiastic he is about it. But the leaders in Munich are other players which leads me to believe that he'd sink with the ship in Madrid too. As an example. Griezmann is a similar player, which is why I believe that he struggled in Barcelona where everything is a bit more confrontational, and why Lewandowski thrives there because he's a man that is seriously head on and in your face in communication.
I praised his strategy, just saying one may be able to present a decent argument about the pursuit of Mbappé at the expense of others.
He wont admit his mistake,he wont admit that his second galactico project is an even bigger failure than the first . The scary thing is he sacrificed the club for a guy who rejected him twice and these rejections ended up being great for us .We beat proably the new EPL champions in City without his guy .....we beat probably the new UCL winners in Atletico without his guy .... HE WONT ADMIT HIS MISTAKE ....Florentino listen GOAT,the Madrid fan base is FINE with selling you know who THE DICTATOR we are fine with that .....are you rutless like you used to be or you have given up and leave after 3 trophyless seasons We cant even win a Spanish super cup anymore with you know who ...Flo WE ARE READY SELL
Do people not realize that Real Madrid from 1956 until 1960 won the first 5 CLs. This feat is yet to be repeated. The closest person to come close to repeating this is.. Florentino who won four CLs in five years. In fact Florentino Perez has now won more CLs than any other president in the world including Santiago Bernabeu. So to claim his project failed is laughable, because it would seem we are no longer measuring his success against his peers - whom he has absolutely dominated - we are measuring it against FM/Fifa Career modes.
Florentino is our second greatest president ever. Nothing will take that away from him. The "project" that's being criticised is how this club (under Flo) has operated in the transfer market over the last half a decade. Signing young prospects, hoping they develop into world beaters, sometimes going for them simply so our rivals don't get them (FOMO). Also, signing superstars without neccessarily thinking how they will fit in with the existing team, hence profile overlap like three left wingers playing forward etc. Florentino has deputized a lot of decision making to other people in the last couple of years, but he's still the leader, he needs to make the hard decisions when things are not going well - and thing have not been going well at all for the last two seasons.
He's become a dictator. He had the board change the requirements of being a candidate for becoming a President. Prior the minimum was 10 years as a club member; he changed it to 20. Moreover, he inserted a clause about needing to have at least 15% of the club's operating budget in cash. That means you need to have at least €150 million in cash to just become a candidate on top of the 20 years as a club member. The reason he runs unopposed is because he has rigged the whole thing to keep himself in power; that senile egomaniac won't let go until he dies.
Do you even know our history? How in deep shit we were before he came and steadied sinking ship? We were in deeper hole than Baca right now.Under him we won bunch of stuff and he is main reason glory hunters like you call themselves Madrid fans. Of course he is not prefect and he made mistakes in first tenure and does makes mistakes now, i do not like everything he does , but show such disrespect to a legendary President , calling for his death?You are sick man.
Respecting what he’s achieved and questioning how things are run now are not mutually exclusive. Blind loyalty isn’t what makes a person a real fan. Fans are allowed to standards and accountability. While he’s been exceptional on the business side, but his approach has disrupted the sporting balance of the team over the years. We have a squad imbalance [too many AMs and left-wingers], delayed reinforcement in key positions [like CB and deep-lying midfielders], and over reliance on individual brilliance. That doesn’t erase the trophies of the past, but it does affect how consistent the team is on the pitch. Hence why we swing between very high highs and very frustrating lows. We are stuck in the phase of being a team of individuals rather than having a fully-cohesive team.
Which is a bit infuriating since these issues could have been addressed before spiraling into this deep $+!+ we are in now. Better foresight and planning would have avoided two trophyless seasons. Instead, the management got high on their own supply.
I recall a football analyst saying - Madrid's football philosophy is having no philosophy. Which is why we have high highs and very low lows. However, no one can deny its success because we win. We bring in high caliber players and hope they mesh and rise up for the good games. It hasn't translated to a lot of league titles but in a pure trophy count we're among the best. That is with me fully aware that many of those teams would be willing to trade in 4 of their domestic cup wins for 1 CL win. So a pure trophy count actually makes it look worse. I fully acknowledge we're in one of those lows and I blame him for most of what has gone wrong this year. At the same time - I would not say his tenure has been a failure; hell I am scared of life post flo more than I am of these next couple of seasons. So instead I'm strapped in and riding the rollercoaster of being a madrid fan - enjoy the highs and survive the lows.
That was not what you said was it? That is legitimate criticism and that is ok. Calling for someones death, openly disrespecting club legend , calling them names , that is not ok. Same was with Carlo btw. +
I'm partially annoyed by some fans disregarding the decades of league underperformance citing, hey we have 15 UCLs! These things could be taken as seperate evaluations, especially over a long timeframe. And frankly, we s*ck domestically recently. Real Madrid doesn't lead the LaLiga trophy by coincidence. It isn't true that Real Madrid doesn't have a playing style. The playing style especially in Europe has always been grit, pragmatism with ruthless quick counters.
I am 100% with you when it comes to domestic form. Unbefitting of a club of this standing. Some will say "the refs", but that's a cheap cop out. The fact is we often wasted Barca's slipups and it's an obvious mental issue at the club. Regardless of the players on the team. And don't get me started on the CdR. We treat it as a chore and constantly downplay its importance.
Exactly, we're not in a good place because his protégé but the man is still our everything. It's ironic that these guys literally can't handle this while those who didn't join this forum during Florentino's second run of titles have experienced far worse and those who have supported this club for decades have seen even worse than that.
As I've said before, evaluating European and domestic success can be taken exclusive from each other. While he has done extraordinarily well in Europe, under Perez, the club has won just 7 Ligas out of 23 seasons(soon to be 24) with him as president. Thats simply a terrible conversion rate considering La Liga is mostly a 2-horse race. This has allowed Barca to close in Madrid's all-time record of 36 vs 28 (soon to be 29) Ligas. We are on pace to be overtaken in a decade or so.
If JAS is making every important sporting decision with Florentino being a dummy president, it's time for him to retire honestly and take JAS with him out of the club.