Look Who's Ahead Of Us Now 2.0

Discussion in 'Real Salt Lake' started by soccermanRSL, Jan 31, 2008.

  1. soccermanRSL

    soccermanRSL JELLACTICOS!!

    Apr 22, 2007
    And the answer to that question is


    NOBODY!!

    My only Christmas wish is that we could win our opener and have everyone else in the west draw. We could be on top of the table.
     
  2. soccermanRSL

    soccermanRSL JELLACTICOS!!

    Apr 22, 2007
    First stat of the year

    2007 Offensive Best ( Goals * 1.5 + Assists )

    G . . . A . . . Pts
    19 . . 05 . . 33.5 . . . Angel - NY
    20 . . 01 . . 31.0 . . . Emilio - DC
    15 . . 06 . . 28.5 . . . Johnson - KC
    16 . . 03 . . 27.0 . . . Twellman - NE
    08 . . 13 . . 25.0 . . . Donovan - LA
    11 . . 08 . . 24.5 . . . Razov - CHV
    10 . . 09 . . 24.0 . . . Gomez - DC
    12 . . 05 . . 23.0 . . . Galindo - CHV
    04 . . 14 . . 20.0 . . . Ralston - NE
    04 . . 13 . . 19.0 . . . Kljestan - CHV
    05 . . 11 . . 18.5 . . . Schelotto - CLB
    07 . . 08 . . 18.5 . . . Fred - DC
     
  3. TapocoL

    TapocoL Member

    Feb 7, 2007
    Bay Area, CA
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Second Stat of last year

    POINTS:

    55 - D.C. United
    53 - Chivas USA
    52 - Houston
    50 - New England
    44 - FC Dallas
    43 - New York
    40 - Chicago
    40 - Kansas City
    37 - Columbus
    35 - Colorado
    34 - Los Angeles
    27 - Real Salt Lake
    25 - Toronto FC




    We sucked! Thats all there was to it
     
  4. Taragui

    Taragui Member+

    Aug 13, 2006
    Northern Utah
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    How dare you inject any reality into our irrational pre-season optimism! :mad:
     
  5. kirsoccer

    kirsoccer BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 29, 2007
    Maybe we should borrow a page from Cubs fans and bring a sign to the opening match saying "There's always next year".
     
  6. TapocoL

    TapocoL Member

    Feb 7, 2007
    Bay Area, CA
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thats funny. You have optimism for RSL. :eek:
     
  7. soccermanRSL

    soccermanRSL JELLACTICOS!!

    Apr 22, 2007
    What are you talking about? Why, all one has to do is double our point total and and add two and we're atop the table!
     
  8. Taragui

    Taragui Member+

    Aug 13, 2006
    Northern Utah
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    So.... are you saying our points were half-full or half-empty? :p
     
  9. pate

    pate Member+

    Jun 12, 2007
    Provo, UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    yeah, but if we do the addition before doubling the points, we only have to add one. :D
     
  10. RCB_Sparky

    RCB_Sparky New Member

    Jan 27, 2008
    SLC
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's a great idea. We were also thinking about making the "Off-Fence" sign from those miller light commercials. :D
     
  11. soccermanRSL

    soccermanRSL JELLACTICOS!!

    Apr 22, 2007
    2007 Shots Per Goal.
    Sort of interesting how well this lines up with actual final point standings in ().

    6.45 . . Dc (1)
    7.70 . . Chv (2)
    7.79 . . Hou (3)
    7.80 . . Ne (4)
    8.29 . . La (11)
    8.43 . . Ny (6)
    9.33 . . Kc (8)
    9.46 . . Fcd (5)
    9.85 . . Clb (9)
    10.06 . . Chi (7)
    11.08 . . Tor (13)
    11.10 . . Col (10)
    11.13 . . Rsl (12)
     
  12. kirsoccer

    kirsoccer BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 29, 2007
    Ouch! This one's quite painful to look at, especially since I think we made a dramatic improvement in this over the last 1/3 rd of the season didn't we?
     
  13. embratsu

    embratsu Member

    Aug 30, 2007
    Boston
    The solution to that problem is just to not shoot so much! :eek:
     
  14. jasoncox

    jasoncox New Member

    Jun 28, 2004
    Dallas, TX
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't remember a "dramatic" improvement. I seem to remember a slight improvement highlighted by a couple wins over Colorado. RSL only won 6 games last year so how much of an improvement could've been made? ;)
     
  15. Taragui

    Taragui Member+

    Aug 13, 2006
    Northern Utah
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    How many of the shots were really intended to be forward passes that were part of our feared "long ball" strategy that happened to go over the end-line? We many never know...
     
  16. n1xhere

    n1xhere Member

    Jul 12, 2007
    strategy :confused: RSL :confused:
     
  17. Allez RSL

    Allez RSL Member+

    Jun 20, 2007
    Home
    Here's a list to compare with the shots per goal list above. Percentage of total shots on goal. It doesn't match up quite as well as the final point standings.


    Team Shots SOG Percentage
    Toronto: 277 152 54.9%
    D.C.: 361 190 52.6%
    Chicago: 312 156 50.0%
    Chivas: 354 175 49.4%
    New England 398 193 48.5%
    Columbus: 380 178 46.8%
    New York 396 178 44.9%
    Dallas: 350 154 44.0%
    Houston: 335 145 43.3%
    Kansas City 420 181 43.1%
    Salt Lake 345 148 42.9%
    L.A.: 315 127 40.3%
    Colorado: 280 103 36.8%

    I grabbed these numbers from the various teams' MLS websites, and only a few of them (RSL, Toronto, and maybe one other) include stats from players who were traded away, so it's hard to say how accurate it is.
     
  18. soccermanRSL

    soccermanRSL JELLACTICOS!!

    Apr 22, 2007
    2007 Saves Per Goal Allowed

    HOU. . 4.04
    DC . . 3.65
    CHV. . 3.57
    COL. . 3.56
    RSL. . 3.38
    CHI. . 3.25
    NE . . 2.79
    LA . . 2.60
    NY . . 2.58
    DAL. . 2.50
    KC . . 2.44
    CLB. . 2.41
    TOR. . 2.35

    I thought the range on this would be bigger. I was wrong.
     
  19. soccermanRSL

    soccermanRSL JELLACTICOS!!

    Apr 22, 2007
    Percentage of goals allowed in final 15 minutes of game

    DC . . 9
    HOU. . 13
    TOR. . 16
    CHV. . 18
    LA . . 19
    NY . . 20
    DAL. . 20
    KC . . 22
    COL. . 26
    NE . . 30
    CHI. . 31
    RSL. . 31
    COL. . 36
     
  20. blitzzfan

    blitzzfan Member

    Jul 25, 2000
    St. George, UT
    So the sense of late game collapses wasn't a myth. Backed up with data.
    Nice work.
     
  21. soccermanRSL

    soccermanRSL JELLACTICOS!!

    Apr 22, 2007
    Oops
    The bottom one is Columbus, not Colorado.
     
  22. I_Believe_In_Kreis

    Oct 2, 2006
    on the pitch
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Cool stat......thanks.

    Here's something interesting: The "average" percentage of goals scored after the 75th minute should be 16.7% (90 divided into 15)......meaning 10 of 13 teams gave up more goals (percentagewise) in the final 15 minutes than in the rest of the game. I suspect that's due to sitting on leads causing opponents to score late.

    And anyone remember how, in 2006, the problem was we always got scored on in the first 15 minutes of the game? This makes it look like last year we solved that problem.....and created another one.
     
  23. TapocoL

    TapocoL Member

    Feb 7, 2007
    Bay Area, CA
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The only problem is it is all relative. If you allow less percentage of goals in the first 15 and allow less percentage of goals in the last 15 minutes, well that means you will get a higher percentage of goals in the middle 60 minutes. All percentages have to add up to 100 in the end. So, technically you will always create another problem. So, I think this stat is a little hard to disect.
     
  24. kirsoccer

    kirsoccer BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 29, 2007
    So what you are saying is that we can't reduce the percentages for each portion of the game? DANG!
     
  25. soccermanRSL

    soccermanRSL JELLACTICOS!!

    Apr 22, 2007
    Of course it will always add up to 100%. The question is if RSL is doing something stupid at the end of games (and the beginning of games the year before).
     

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