Local kid earns tryout - Goff

Discussion in 'D.C. United' started by Keenan, Jan 3, 2007.

  1. John_Harkes_6

    John_Harkes_6 New Member

    Mar 29, 2000
    Baltimore, MD.
    Quick question - are we tipping our hand too quickly here by announcing this? I mean technically anyone can draft him in the draft correct? Players don't have to go to the combine to get drafted - NY convinced Occean (???) to skip the combine so they would have the inside shot at drafting him late. Of course, the plan worked out but not fully since he never accepted their contract and went to Norway (?).
     
  2. The Magpie

    The Magpie Member

    Nov 19, 1998
    Cambridge, MA
    Is it tipping your hand when the player probably wouldn't otherwise get picked in the first couple of rounds? I don't think the likes of Red Bull, Chicago or New England are evening going to take a sniff of this guy when compared to other players in the draft and/or those at the combine.
     
  3. Sundevil9

    Sundevil9 Member

    Nov 23, 1999
    Reston, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Can teams draft unsigned players?

    I'd think United would use a Discovery allocation on him after the draft, much like with Boswell.
     
  4. JoeSoccerFan

    JoeSoccerFan Member+

    Aug 11, 2000

    Teams can only draft players that are on the "draftable" list. I don't believe that you must be signed to be on the list.
     
  5. monster

    monster Member

    Oct 19, 1999
    Hanover, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think teams can request players be added to the list, but if they do so, they must draft them if no one else gets them first. I read that somewhere, but can't remember where.
     
  6. JoeSoccerFan

    JoeSoccerFan Member+

    Aug 11, 2000
    i think that's only for GA. There are many players on the list that don't get drafted.
     
  7. fatbastard

    fatbastard Member+

    Aug 1, 2003
    Lincoln (ish), Va
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think any player signed even after the draft has to be on that list. I think I remember (there have been alot of tailgates since then) that United added Bozilla's name to the list on the last day, figuring no other team would draft him because they hadn't heard of him, but that made it possible for United to sign him later "undrafted".
    But they do keep changing the rules .......... him being local with the new local talent rules may make it possible for us to announce his invite before the draft, where before we would have kept quiet until after no-one picked him.
     
  8. BBBulldog

    BBBulldog Member+

    Jun 25, 2004
    Dinamo Zagreb
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Croatia
    Yes, I'm sure dude that's charging me $500 to show up at traffic court with me is thinking the same thing as he makes Moose's monthly wage :D
     
  9. jason1551

    jason1551 Member+

    Apr 9, 2003
    Columbus, GA
    Club:
    DC United
    If he's not on the official draft list, he can't be drafted. Otherwise, teams would be hiding players willy-nilly, and the list wouldn't be very official. I recall Boswell and Occean being told specifically by their teams not to attend the combine or try to enter the draft so that their teams could sign them without a problem.
     
  10. Sundevil9

    Sundevil9 Member

    Nov 23, 1999
    Reston, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Well, it worked for Garth Lagerway.
     
  11. vivzig

    vivzig New Member

    Oct 4, 2004
    The OC
    I guess I still don't understand--can he skip the draft, or not? 6-4 versatile players with national awards under their belts and a significant aerial game don't get passed over on draft day.
     
  12. jason1551

    jason1551 Member+

    Apr 9, 2003
    Columbus, GA
    Club:
    DC United
    If no team asks for him to be put on the draft list, then yeah. I think the trick is not letting other teams know about him and for the player to not show an interest in MLS. That would explain the last sentence regarding him planning on going to law school. He tips his hand at going back to school to throw off other teams thinking about him, while DC makes sure he's good enough if they do want to sign him. It's a risky move, but if it pays off, DC basically gets a free draft pick.
     
  13. monster

    monster Member

    Oct 19, 1999
    Hanover, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I swear I read that anyone can request a player to be added to the draft list, but if only one team requested, they were on the hook for drafting him. Maybe that was if the guy signed. I am looking, but can't find it. I want to say Ives or Connolly had it somewhere.
     
  14. RTM1

    RTM1 New Member

    Jan 7, 2003
    Great Mills MD
    Actually the NSCAA ranked Williams #9 in their final 2006 list following a season with 14 wins, 1 loss, and 2 ties. But Div III is a long way from the MLS, no matter how big this guy is.
     
  15. SteveWWJ

    SteveWWJ Member

    Jan 28, 2003
    Reston, VA
    Hopefully this kid is a diamond in the rough.

    Though, in going by our history, we haven't had the best of luck with Division III Player of the Year pick-ups.

    The last one didn't make it through training camp.

    Anyone else other than me remember Hayden Woodworth?

    Old interview with Ray from '03:
    http://www.soccerloop.com/2003/03/Ray-Hudson/

     
  16. EdTheRed

    EdTheRed Member+

    Feb 6, 2001
    Loose On The Town
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Cook Islands
    Because it's Williams. Sheesh. Everyone knows Wesleyan is the King of NESCAC! ;) :D
     
  17. EdTheRed

    EdTheRed Member+

    Feb 6, 2001
    Loose On The Town
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Cook Islands
    Williams is a bit of a D-III sports factory, albeit one with very high academic standards. Steinbrenner is an alum, so they're not hurting for $ (he paid for their football stadium). Of course, I feel obliged to point out that Back In My Day, Wesleyan pwned Williams in soccer (okay, so we beat them in the finals of the D-III New England Championships one year...which sucked, b/c the third place team got to go to the NCAA tourney, since at the time NESCAC wasn't allowing member schools to go to the NCAAs). One of the better players from that Wesleyan team (Amos McGee, I think) ended up playing in MLS for Tampa and Chicago...and he was maybe 5'4", not 6'4"...

    Wesleyan, btw, still has more Certified NFL Coaching Geniuses (two) than Williams. So maybe we can't play, but we can think! ;) Woo!

    All you D-III haters can check it at the door. There are a lot of reasons why some very talented athletes would opt for a school like Williams over a D-I school.
     
  18. Claymore

    Claymore Member

    Jul 9, 2000
    Montgomery Vlg, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The kid from Messiah, right? Couldn't remember his name.
     
  19. Claymore

    Claymore Member

    Jul 9, 2000
    Montgomery Vlg, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I played D3 ball. The pace of the game at that level is WAY below D1, and D1 is considerably slower than MLS. You hear that claim made pretty often - that the biggest hurdle for college players going into MLS is getting used to how much faster the game is at the pro level.
     
  20. fatbastard

    fatbastard Member+

    Aug 1, 2003
    Lincoln (ish), Va
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How fast does he have to be to stand at the penalty spot and let Christian Gomez bounce balls off his head into the net? ;)

    I remember Hayden Woodworth - he made our all-name rookie team that year :)
    long blondish hair if I recall, he was an alternate for the all-hair team as well.
     
  21. JeremyEritrea

    JeremyEritrea Member+

    Jun 29, 2006
    Takoma Park, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Handel's Messiah? Do you mean this kid is another Jesus?

    Wow!
     
  22. John_Harkes_6

    John_Harkes_6 New Member

    Mar 29, 2000
    Baltimore, MD.
    Well unless you want him breaking Bobby's record for own goals you do have that tricky thing called offsides ;)
     
  23. Th4119

    Th4119 Member

    Jul 26, 2001
    Annandale, VA
    Tell Christian to start crossing from the endline. Prolbem solved.
     
  24. fatbastard

    fatbastard Member+

    Aug 1, 2003
    Lincoln (ish), Va
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was talking about corner kicks, no offside.

    Since we haven't scored on a corner kick since (it seems) the Carter administration, I see where you would not have thought of a corner kick first from my post :D
     
  25. scarshins

    scarshins Member

    Jun 13, 2000
    fcva
    Matters which D3 schools I think- Williams is probably better than a good portion- approaching half- of D1 schools.
     

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