LNA week 12 - [R]

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  1. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    LNA week 12

    The other three games:
    Servette-Wil
    Xamax-YB
    Thun-Zurich

    At Thun, they are making the game free in an effort to have a big crowd so they can make a push at the Intertoto Cup.

    In an aside, LS has forefited against Yverdon. There were concerns over insurance for the players. The LS players hope to be able to play the remaining games.
     
  2. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Rob, it's still Week 11 :)
     
  3. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    The actual match-ups for Week 12

    Wednesday - 5/21

    FC Wil - Xamax
    Young Boys - Servette
    FC Zurich - Grasshoppers
    FC Basel - FC Thun
     
  4. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    oops. I was getting ahead of myself. Sorry!
    But the YB-Servette games and the Zurich derby are the two big games in week 12!
     
  5. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Standings heading into Week 12

    1. Grasshoppers 11 7 4 0 28:10 (50)
    2. Basel 11 7 2 2 27:17 (47)
    3. Xamax 11 4 3 4 15:13 (31)
    4. Young Boys 11 5 1 5 15:20 (31)
    5. Servette 11 4 4 3 13:15 (31)
    6. Zürich 11 3 2 6 14:18 (27)
    7. Thun 11 2 2 7 12:22 (24)
    8. Wil 11 2 2 7 14:23 (24)


    Uefa Cup Spots

    Grasshoppers Champion Scenario
    Since Basel will qualify for the Uefa Cup as cupwinners, the 4th place in the standings will be good enough for the Uefa Cup. FCZ pretty much only has a shot at this possible 4th place. They need as many points as they can get in the last 3 rounds. Ironically, they play Grasshoppers this week -- the team that needs to win the championship for them to make that 4th place available.

    Basel Champion Scenario
    Xamax would qualify for the Uefa Cup as finalists, and that would only leave 3rd place in the standings for Young Boys, Servette, and FCZ to qualify for the Uefa Cup
     
  6. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Besides the FCZ-GCZ match, the YB-Servette match is the other big one. Xamax has a great chance to pull away from YB and/or Servette with a win over Wil.

    Another weekend of good games.
     
  7. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    http://www.uefa.com/footballcentral/news/Kind=16/newsId=69768.html

    This weekend's round-up including an interesting notion. See under the Xamax section. Uefa.com is saying they have already recieved a UEFA Cup spot because they were Swiss Cup finalists. Who is right, or are we all, and just saying the same thing in different ways.
     
  8. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    I hate to be nitpicking again, but this is a midweek round :D

    - Uefa.com is wrong

    - The suspension hammer came down hard for Grasshoppers and Basel. After Friday's incidents (the brawl), the disciplinary commision slapped 4 players with suspensions ranging from 2-3 games.

    * Ricardo Cabanas - 2 games (provocating Cantaluppi)
    * Mario Cantaluppi - 3 games (headbutting Cabanas, twice)
    * Christian Gimenez (incident with Mitreski)
    * Aleksandar Mitreski (ellbowing Gimenez)

    Cantaluppi and Gimenez think the decision is too harsh, while Cabanas thinks Basel got off easy once again. Both clubs have the right to appeal the decision (GC already stated that they will).
     
  9. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    IASocFan, can you use your omminipitant powers and put an [r] in the subject? Thanks.

    If Xamax does not get three points from WIl, they have lost a great oppourtunity. Wil has been playing well lately despite last weeks loss to Servette in Geneva. Wil also is playing for their LN survival, with the license problem still unresolved, Wil probatly leave enerything they have on the field. The UEFA Cup gives all four games great importance today. What a great system, not without its flaws, but a really good system.
     
  10. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Let the Games begin!
    5' Wil 0 - 0 Neuchatel Xamax

    5' Young Boys Bern 0 - 0 Servette
     
  11. IASocFan

    IASocFan Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 13, 2000
    IOWA
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bitte schön. :)
     
  12. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    19' Young Boys Bern [1 - 0] Servette
    6' [1 - 0] Sermeter


    Not a good way to start for Servette.


    19' Sion 1 - 0 Kriens
    19' Lausanne Sports 0 - 1 Concordia
     
  13. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    24' Wil 0 - 0 Neuchatel Xamax
    24' Young Boys Bern 1 - 1 Servette

    Servette got one back!!!!

    24' Sion 1 - 1 Kriens
    24' Vaduz 0 - 2 Aarau

    Looks like Vaduz's hopes of LNA this year are diminishing. Aarau is playing really well. I wonder what happened in the fall?
     
  14. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wil [1 - 0] Neuchatel Xamax
    24' [1 - 0] Lustrinelli

    Huge goal for Wil! Not good at all for Xamax.

    32' Schaffhausen 0 - 1 Bellinzona
     
  15. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    HT
    Wil [1 - 1] Neuchatel Xamax
    24' [1 - 0] Lustrinelli
    45' [1 - 1] Leandro

    Xamax stole the momentum with a late goal, it will be interesting to see if they can carry it over into the second half.

    Young Boys Bern [1 - 1] Servette
    6' [1 - 0] Sermeter
    16' [1 - 1] Kader

    Can Servette hang on for a point?

    HT Lucerne 0 - 0 Delemont
    HT Sion 2 - 0 Kriens
    HT Vaduz 1 - 2 Aarau
    HT Baden 1 - 0 Winterthur
    HT Lausanne Sports 1 - 1 Concordia
    HT Schaffhausen 3 - 3 Bellinzona
    HT Wohlen 0 - 0 Yverdon
     
  16. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Well, say goodbye to it. The split-season system is great in creating suspense, but it makes clubs financially adventourus (see Lugano, Lausanne).
     
  17. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    58' Wil 1 - 1 Neuchatel Xamax
    58' Young Boys Bern 1 - 1 Servette
    31' Basel 1 - 0 Thun
    31' Zurich 0 - 1 Grasshoppers

    GCZ gets a goal! I can imagine the rage at the stadium now!

    58' Vaduz 2 - 3 Aarau
     
  18. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    68' Wil 1 - 1 Neuchatel Xamax

    68' Young Boys Bern 1 - 1 Servette

    41' Basel 1 - 0 Thun

    41' Zurich 1 - 1 Grasshopper

    FCZ ties it up! This could get interesting!
     
  19. IASocFan

    IASocFan Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 13, 2000
    IOWA
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Full time results for May 21 in all leagues:

    - Switzerland - National-liga A
    Wil 1 - 1 Neuchatel Xamax
    Young Boys Bern 2 - 1 Servette
    Basel 4 - 0 Thun
    Zurich 1 - 1 Grasshoppers

    - Switzerland - National-liga A/B
    Lucerne 5 - 0 Delemont
    Sion 3 - 0 Kriens
    Vaduz 3 - 6 Aarau

    - Switzerland - National-liga B
    Baden 2 - 1 Winterthur
    Lausanne Sports 1 - 1 Concordia
    Schaffhausen 4 - 3 Bellinzona
    Wohlen 1 - 0 Yverdon
     
  20. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Standings

    NLA

    1. Grasshoppers 12 7 5 0 29:11 (51)
    2. Basel 12 8 2 2 31:17 (50)
    3. Young Boys 12 6 1 5 17:21 (34)
    4. Xamax 12 4 4 4 16:14 (32)
    5. Servette 12 4 4 4 14:17 (31)
    6. Zürich 12 3 3 6 15:19 (28)
    7. Wil 12 2 3 7 15:24 (25)
    8. Thun 12 2 2 8 12:26 (24)

    GC misses a big chance to end it all this Saturday. This missed opportunity brings Basel back into the race. I can't help but think about all the missed chances GC had to secure the championship by now. I'm specifically thinking about the two games against Basel - both times GC had the lead and gave it up. Of course FCZ had to show their good face today :rolleyes:, as they always do when up against superior competition (only to lose to the Thuns and Wils of the league in the next game). GC is thinking about taking legal action against Basel after today. The reason is Marco Streller, who plays for Thun but belongs 100% to Basel (they pay all his salary as well). Not surprisingly, he did not play today :rolleyes:. Christian Gross made a deal with Thun coach Latour, and he left Thun's best forward on the bench for this one. GC thinks this is manipulating the championship and so do I. Elsewhere, the Uefa Cup race stays a close one.

    Pro/Rel

    1. Aarau 10 8 1 1 25: 8 (25)
    2. St. Gallen 10 5 3 2 19: 8 (18)
    -----------------------------------
    3. Luzern 10 4 4 2 21:13 (16)
    4. Kriens 11 3 2 6 14:24 (11)
    5. Vaduz 10 2 4 4 12:21 (10)
    6. Sion 10 2 3 5 11:16 (9)
    7. Delémont 11 2 3 6 11:23 (9)

    Luzern is officially back in the race. It looks like the head-to-head meeting between FCSG and FCL is going to decide the 10th NLA team next season.
     
  21. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If Gross did manipulate the match, could there be UEFA bans and a loss of points? It will be interesting to see how this turns out.

    Servette should buy raquelette for the entire FC Wi team, their draw keeps them in the race. YB put on a nice preformance, I expect them to get the second UEFA Cup spot.

    Servette has:
    Servette - Basel
    Zürich - Servette

    Xamax has:
    NE Xamax - Zürich
    Basel - NE Xamax

    YB has:
    Thun - Young Boys
    Young Boys - Grasshopper

    The YB have two difficult games. Thun will want to play very well in the derby game. Then to finish against GCZ with the Championship on the line, that will be tough for YB.

    Servette has a difficult game against Basel, who need to win the match. The Zurich game will be easier, but as FCZ has shown that when motivated, they can play well.

    Xamax has Zurich at home and at Basel. The Basel game will be interesting because it could mean a possible league championship or nothing.

    I think the most important team in the race for the UEFA Cup spot is FC Zurich. Although not eliminated by the numbers the way they play the next two games can have a great impact. But with nothing to play for, will they just coast into the summer break, take thei Intertoto spot and go?
     
  22. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here is the press release from FC Thun:

    "As the rhénan club is still in the hunt for the title, our trainer Hanspeter Latour promised to his contemport bâlois, Christian Gross, that Marco Streller will not play. He will keep his word."

    The amazing thing for me is that both clubs are very open about this. This is the reason that the EPL does not allow loans between EPL clubs. I understand the necessity in Switzerland, but this is scarry.

    Has a situiation like this occured before in Switzerland? If so, how was it dealt with by the LN. I thought things like this only happened in Italy!
     
  23. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From the newspaper reports that I have looked at, Servette should have won the match. Even La Libertie of Fribourg, which usually supports YB was for Servette. As in every match, there were a few questionable calls, including the sending off of Bullo in the 63rd minute. Servette looks to be the odd team out with their remaining two games, both which will be difficult.

    Joël Descloux the YB coach said that they were lucky to have won the match. " We had few chances and we won."

    YB need just one point from their last two games to qualify for a UEFA spot.
     
  24. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    I seriously doubt it. Is it immoral? - Yes. Is it illegal? - probably not. GC seems to agree with me, as they declared today that no legal action will be taken. Club officials still consider it an outrage however.


    On an unrelated note, Arsenal coach Arsene Wenger was spotted eating a Berner Bratwurst at the Neufeld. Wenger of course was there to have a look at his new signing Phillipe Senderos:

    [​IMG]
     
  25. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland

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