LMF TV rights "issue" involving MAJOR US Spanish-language TV broadcasting company

Discussion in 'Mexico: Clubs' started by huhe888, Jan 14, 2010.

  1. huhe888

    huhe888 Red Card

    Oct 3, 2007
    Apologies in advance to "riverplate" for the intrusion.

    I understand that there is a TV rights "issue" involving a highly-leveraged MAJOR U.S. Spanish-language TV broadcasting company which may significantly affect the first weekend of the Liga Mexicana 2010 Clausura season.

    I will let the reporters and bloggers chase this story down. In my opinion, this story is big enough to be pursued.

    I will not name this highly-leveraged company explicitly, but you should be able to read "between the lines" to figure out the company involved.

    ==

    Confirmed Liga Mexicana U.S. TV schedule for the weekend of January 16-17 (as of January 14 at 7pm ET):

    Saturday January 16:

    5:55pm ET LIVE - Liga Mexicana - Monterrey vs Indios - Telemundo
    5:55pm ET LIVE - Liga Mexicana - Jaguares vs Cruz Azul - Azteca America, ESPN Deportes
    7:55pm ET LIVE - Liga Mexicana - Chivas Guadalajara vs Toluca - Telemundo
    8pm ET - Liga Mexicana - Pachuca vs Estudiantes Tecos - ?
    10pm ET SDD - Liga Mexicana - Atlante vs Queretero - Telemundo

    Sunday January 17:

    12:55pm ET LIVE - Liga Mexicana - Pumas vs Atlas - Telemundo
    1pm ET LIVE - Liga Mexicana - Puebla vs Tigres - FOX Sports en Espanol (SDD 3pm ET on Azteca America)
    5pm ET - Liga Mexicana - Club America vs San Luis - ?
    5pm ET - Liga Mexicana - Santos vs Monarcas - ?
     
  2. Panfilo

    Panfilo Member+

    May 9, 2003
    INLAND EMPIRE
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    ah f'k Univision problems again

    Alright now

    Azteca America sublicenses the Pachuca, Santos, and Tecos home games

    Plus they got America and San Luis because of Televisa

    Add to that Queretaro (who takes the place of Necaxa in the deal)


    Looking at your post I can't figure out why both sets of rights are gone.

    I thought the Televisa feud was done with until 2017

    I don't know how long the deal with Azteca America was for?

    uff

    This might have to do with pissing off the FMF due to the Mexico v US game that was called off because of the Univison v Telemundo feud for the rights.

    And Univision wants to buy the rights from the European teams during Mexico's euro tour in May before the World Cup. The FMF has a deal with Telemundo but Univision wants to buy the rights directly from the home team and beat Telemundo.

    http://laaficion.milenio.com/noticias/34289-la-televisi-n-es-otro-problema

    This might be a way to pressure Univision to cease and desist.


    (I'm just speculating)
     
  3. riverplate

    riverplate Member+

    Jan 1, 2003
    Corona, Queens
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    I held off posting the schedule because of this business. Anyway, it's up now in its own thread.

    (Oh, and it's inappropriate to highlight one team in listing any schedule.) :D
     
  4. huhe888

    huhe888 Red Card

    Oct 3, 2007
    What I do know from information made available freely to the public by the Security and Exchange Commission (SEC) that...

    ...the company involved has to make a semi-annual interest payment of $20.2 million in cash to bondholders each January 15 and July 15.

    However, I do NOT know for certain whether this "cash flow" event on January 15, 2010 is the cause of the "issue".
     
  5. huhe888

    huhe888 Red Card

    Oct 3, 2007
    Azteca America appears to have repossessed the home matches to Estudiantes Tecos, Pachuca, and Santos, at least for the opening weekend.

    Saturday January 16

    7:55pm ET - Liga Mexicana - Pachuca vs Estudiantes Tecos - Azteca America

    Sunday January 17

    4:55pm ET - Liga Mexicana - Santos vs Monarcas - Azteca America

    ==

    Don't know yet what Televisa will do with Club America vs San Luis.
     
  6. Deleted USer

    Deleted USer Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    do you have the file number?

    I search univision and they have many of their affiliates. I dont feel like reading all of them.
     
  7. huhe888

    huhe888 Red Card

    Oct 3, 2007
    The last Form 10-Q filed by Univision Communications Inc. with the SEC was in May 2009 for the quarter ending on March 31, 2009.

    http://sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1017008/000119312509113258/d10q.htm

    Go to pages 16, 17, 32, and 33 and read about the 7.85% senior notes.

    ==

    I do need to correct myself:

    Most of those 7.85% senior notes were repurchased by Univision Communications in a "tender offer" in July 2009. Those notes were replaced with $545 million of 12% senior notes, which require semi-annual interest payments on January 1 and July 1 each year starting in 2010, according to a Form 8-K filed by Univision Communications with the SEC in July 2009.

    http://sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1017008/000119312509149191/d8k.htm

    $545 million x 0.12 x 0.5 = $32.7 million in semi-annual interest.

    That means Univision Communications had to pay $32.7 million in cash to bondholders of the 12% senior notes on January 1, 2010.
     
  8. Naui_Ocelotl

    Naui_Ocelotl Member

    Apr 3, 2008
    Didn't see this game on TV, hopefully this whole mess is sorted for the good of the MFL viewer.

    In other TV news, Mun2 to broadcast Mexican football league matches in English?
     
  9. Deleted USer

    Deleted USer Member+

    Jan 7, 2001

    its weird to see Univision with next to nothing.... just 3 years ago.... they had just about all the best league games (America, Chivas, Atlas, Toluca, etc)

    it will be interesting to see how all this will pan out and see if TDN will somehow break into the US market...
     
  10. elvasco

    elvasco 100% Americanista

    Sep 10, 2006
    that's what Im thinking, I wonder how Univision is gonna pay for the world cup rights if they lose all the games from our league.
     
  11. Deleted USer

    Deleted USer Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    at one point... I thought Telemundo would never ever recover. They had NOTHING!

    They had to resort to showing replays of international matches for their sunday programming.
     
  12. Mr. Pink

    Mr. Pink Member+

    Aug 29, 2005
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Bahamas
    I remember watching one of these replays one time already knowing the score. I could have sworn I heard fat boy Andres Cantor mention that the game was live.:confused: The nerve of them.
     
  13. azulcremaporvida

    Jan 16, 2007
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    from the quarterly report that guy posted

    Univision has ~ $4 mil in "intangible assets" and ~$5 mil in "Goodwill"

    does anyone here speak lawyer?
     
  14. Perndog2006

    Perndog2006 Member+

    Jul 24, 2006
    Nery Nut Ryder
    Club:
    CF Rayados de Monterrey
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
  15. azulcremaporvida

    Jan 16, 2007
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    "...defined as identifiable non-monetary assets that cannot be seen, touched or physically measured" eh? I see now that I am an intangible asset

    can't see me muhfuqa
     
  16. Perndog2006

    Perndog2006 Member+

    Jul 24, 2006
    Nery Nut Ryder
    Club:
    CF Rayados de Monterrey
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    actually you are intangible

    :D
     
  17. Panfilo

    Panfilo Member+

    May 9, 2003
    INLAND EMPIRE
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    About time

    From the main man himself:

    Para USA a partir de este fin de semana ya se transmitirá el Fut en Univision

    http://twitter.com/eazcarraga
     
  18. Don Boppero 3000

    Don Boppero 3000 DNALMQNLGLLMX!

    Jan 15, 2001
    The Fullerton Hotel Chicago
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    is that really him?

    nice find.
     
  19. Panfilo

    Panfilo Member+

    May 9, 2003
    INLAND EMPIRE
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    yep, verified account and everything.
     
  20. Naquisima

    Naquisima Member+

    Sep 18, 2008
    Long Beach!
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
  21. Panfilo

    Panfilo Member+

    May 9, 2003
    INLAND EMPIRE
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
  22. martincruz88

    martincruz88 Member

    Jun 28, 2007
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    so now that univision is going to be broadcasting fmf games next matchday, are they going to also show the pachuca santos estudiantes games as well? or just the televisa teams america san luis and queretaro?
     
  23. huhe888

    huhe888 Red Card

    Oct 3, 2007
    I understand that Univision Communications has retained BOTH packages of Mexican League home games for the 2010 calendar year for the following clubs:

    From Televisa: Club America, San Luis, Queretaro

    Sublicensed from Azteca America: Estudiantes Tecos, Pachuca, Santos Laguna
     
  24. Pelon714

    Pelon714 New Member

    Jan 20, 2010
    Club:
    Club América
    Here is the schedule for the weekend of Friday Jan 22 - Sunday Jan 24 on Univision Networks:

    Torneo Bicentenario 2010
    Galavisión
    En vivo
    Estudiantes-Tecos
    vs.
    Puebla
    Viernes 22 de enero
    9:00 PM Este
    8:00 PM Centro
    6:00 PM Pacífico

    Torneo Bicentenario 2010
    TeleFutura
    En vivo
    Querétaro
    vs.
    Pachuca
    Sábado 23 de enero
    6:00 PM Este
    5:00 PM Centro
    3:00 PM Pacífico
     
  25. martincruz88

    martincruz88 Member

    Jun 28, 2007
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    any chance that univision will show its fmf matches in HD?
     

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