Lloyd Sam up to Charlton's first team...

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by BuffloSoldier, Feb 27, 2003.

  1. puddleduck

    puddleduck Member

    Mar 15, 2002
    Providence, RI
    I'm not familar with this player. Is he American?

    PlanetFootball lists his birthplace as Leeds.

    edit: I see that Dave Marino-Nachison has him listed as a YA in his big mother list on the Son Of All Yanks Abroad thread.

    So I assume he has dual citizenship. Anyone have any info on where his loyalties lie?
     
  2. beineke

    beineke New Member

    Sep 13, 2000
    There's no mention of the word "American" in either article. His brother Andrew has an updated bio that points out he was born in England. Presumably, the same goes for Lloyd. Consider also that we've heard nothing about Lloyd getting a call-up for the US U-20's.

    http://www.titansports.org/msoccer/2002/players/sam.html

    Lloyd attended American International schools, but do we even know whether he is eligible for US citizenship? This whole connection is starting to sound a little rickety.
     
  3. davide

    davide Member

    Mar 1, 2001
    Yes, he's NOT interested in playing for the USA.
     
  4. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    From the brother's bio...

    PERSONAL: Born on Nov. 1, 1982, in Leeds, England... Parents are Andrew Sam of Pasadena and Adelaide Sam of London...

    It's a bit of an assumption, but if his dad is actually "from" Pasadena, meaning born there or lived there long enough to get US citizenship before last year (when Lloyd would have turned 18) then it would appear the kid is eligible for US citizenship through his papa.

    Factor in that he went to American school in a country where there isn't an English barrier and it points to being a US citizen.

    That said, I just can't believe Rongen hasn't taken a look at this kid.

    From the Charlton release -

    "Lloyd has been our most creative and exciting player throughout the season. He has a natural ability to go past players and he has made great strides with his understanding of the game this season.

    Earlier reports said he was playing on the right flank. That just happens to be one of the U20 teams weaker positions (converted forward Devin Barclay has been manning it).

    Even if he is a central player, I can't believe the US couldn't use a player of this quality at the U20 level. I mean, recent results against Canada (loss), Mexico (loss), and Colombia (loss, tie) would seem to suggest they do.

    Regardless, congrats to the kid for the promotion.
     
  5. BerwynBlazers

    BerwynBlazers Member

    Jul 23, 2001
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    i think i might have mentioned this before but one of my friends roomed with him for soccer camp at indiana over the summer and llyod told him a little story about how he quit school:

    llyod thought his math teacher didn't like him and was grading his tests like that so he did something about it. After getting back a test he got a low grade on, he crumpled up the test, went up to the teacher, threw it at his face and say i don't need school, i will make millions playing soccer, and walked out.

    the ultimate thug.
     
  6. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    davide, not doubting you, just curious how you know this.
     
  7. davide

    davide Member

    Mar 1, 2001
    I contacted him to find out his status for the U-20 team. I'm still not sure if he's actually eligible to play for the USA, but he made it crystal clear that he had no interest in playing for the USA.
     
  8. The Wanderer

    The Wanderer New Member

    Sep 3, 1999
    Can it get any clearer than that? The dude sounds like cancer personified.
     
  9. Stogey23

    Stogey23 Member+

    Dec 12, 1998
    San Diego, CA
    He does have a shifty look to him.
    [​IMG]
     
  10. GringoTex

    GringoTex Member

    Aug 22, 2001
    1301 miles de Texas
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Why don't you move this thread to Politics, Buff, so we can bash him for being anti-American.
     
  11. The Wanderer

    The Wanderer New Member

    Sep 3, 1999
    I wasn't implying that he was anti-American, just that the incident with the math teacher was over the top.
     
  12. mattgabe

    mattgabe Member

    Sep 20, 2000
    Blacksburg, VA
    If it happened, yes. But it sounds like a typical "friend of a friend" story. Either way, whatever.
     
  13. monop_poly

    monop_poly Member

    May 17, 2002
    Chicago
    We'll bash him over there anyway, unless he catches the forum on a lucky day of tolerance.
     
  14. ferrari77

    ferrari77 Member

    May 23, 2002
    Everywhere
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    the lads got a homepage on icons with the other footballers.
     
  15. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    So, did the kid get to play?
     
  16. odg78

    odg78 Member

    Feb 14, 2001
    North Carolina
    According to the Charlton site he didn't even make the bench.
     
  17. GersMan

    GersMan Member

    May 11, 2000
    Indianapolis
    did he tell that camp story before or after making bathroom noises with his armpit?
     

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