Liverpool v. West Brom pre and post-match[R]

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  1. kopiteinkc

    kopiteinkc Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 1, 2000
    Shawnee
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Well I want to move on from the debacle yesterday, so let's get this thread rolling as part of our healing process!!

    Most talk will probably be of our line-up.

    Time to recall Owen, and I would really like to see how Owen and Baros play together for the full 90 minutes.

    Hopefully Henchoz will be fit by Saturday. This should give us a line-up of:

    Dudek
    Traore-Henchoz-Hyypia-Carragher
    Riise-Hamann-Gerrard-Murphy
    Baros-Owen

    We might see a 4-3-3 with Heskey in for Riise also.
     
  2. Samarkand

    Samarkand Member+

    May 28, 2001
    This will be an interesting game. It's not make or break at this stage, but in light of the Valencia debacle, the team have to bounce back strongly, if they are as pissed off as GH says they are. Anything less than a win will not bode well for the mental strength for the remainder of the season.
     
  3. SMP420

    SMP420 New Member

    Sep 16, 2002
    north hollywood
    As far as formation and players who knows what we will see next.I say Liverpool 3 WBA 1.
     
  4. 655321

    655321 New Member

    Jul 21, 2002
    The Mission, SF
    Is Babbel ready to go yet?? I know he was on the bench for Valencia, so I'm assuming yes. If so...


    Dudek

    Babbel/Hyypia/Henchoz/Carragher

    Murphy/Hamman/Gerrard/Riise

    Owen/Diouf

    subs
    Berger
    Kirkland
    Traore
    Heskey
    Baros

    I'll admit I'm a little torn on the Riise/Heskey situation. Same with the striker selection. Baros and Owen, Baros and Diouf, Heskey and Owen, Heskey and Baros, Heskey and Diouf?? Jesus, so many decisions to made here. However, I fully expect to see Owen play.

    Clearly, we MUST win this match. End of story. Owen, if he plays, must score. The early season jitters should have been well worn off by now.
     
  5. LiverpoolFanatic

    Liverpool FC, Philadelphia Union
    Feb 19, 2000
    Lancaster, PA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ditto!


    Baggies beware. I fully expect GH to institute a go for the jugular approach to try and get the match over early and re-instill confidence in the squad. I hope it works to perfection.

    Any word on when Markus will make his return?
     
  6. Matt Clark

    Matt Clark Member

    Dec 19, 1999
    Liverpool
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Houllier's comments on Sky might have some bearing on this. It would seem to indicate that he is prepared to protect Owen from the reactionary dross strikers have to put up with when they are having one of these spells, rather than endanger his confidence further by playing him in an "Owen must score" context.

    If he does not rest Owen, I would imagin he will be tempted to go with a three-pronged attack (our nascent "default" home formation), with Heskey replacing Riise on the left and Owen and Baros through the middle.
     
  7. I like this analysis—but I start off with a different assumption, so my conclusions are a little different.

    I’m pretty sure that Babbel will be in our squad Saturday, but I’d be very surprised if he were in the starting eleven. I believe he should get 20-30 minutes run-out in the second half, however, if at all possible (I’ll elaborate below).

    With Babbel not starting (and assuming Henchoz can start), I think we’ll look like this:

    …………………Dudek

    Carragher—Hyppia—Henchoz—Riise

    Murphy—Gerrard—Hamann—Heskey

    ……………..Baros—Owen

    Subs:
    Kirkland
    Traore
    Babbel
    Cheyrou
    Diouf

    Traore has been pretty solid in the early matches this year—but he’s played a lot of minutes, and has seemed less effective in the two most recent matches. I’d rest him.

    That solves the Riise/Heskey quandary, which I share with 655321—I’d play them both.

    The Baros/Owen partnership is too tempting to pass up. If it doesn’t work, sub Cheyrou for whichever of the strikers is faring worst, and push Heskey up top.

    As I mentioned above, I’d like to see Babbel get some playing time if at all possible. With Basel coming to Anfield for CL Matchday 2, and Hamann out for that match, our defense could be under unusual pressure, IMO. We might need Babbel to come in to help in the back, in some capacity, and I’d like him to have had some actual top-level playing time before next Wednesday.




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  8. LiverpoolFanatic

    Liverpool FC, Philadelphia Union
    Feb 19, 2000
    Lancaster, PA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Markus played for the reserves tonight. I am not sure if he went the full 90 or not though. Perhaps matt could shed some light on this.
     
  9. Matt Clark

    Matt Clark Member

    Dec 19, 1999
    Liverpool
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    it was the full ninety, yes.
     
  10. kopiteinkc

    kopiteinkc Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 1, 2000
    Shawnee
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Henchoz back?

    From soccernet:

    Defender Stephane Henchoz should return following a calf injury when Liverpool take on West Brom at Anfield.

    Michael Owen is expected to start the game after being on the substitutes' bench for the previous two matches.

    Vladimir Smicer (foot) and Abel Xavier (sickness) also missed the trip to Valencia in midweek, and neither are expected to be in the squad against the Baggies.

    Lee Hughes faces the chop from Gary Megson's starting line-up as Albion go in search of an improbable fourth-consecutive Barclaycard Premiership win.

    Hughes has not scored in his three games since rejoining his hometown club in a £2.5million deal from Coventry last month and was hauled off at half-time in last week's win over Southampton.

    The Baggies hero also suffered a slight knee injury against the Saints and that could help tip Megson's decision in favour of Scott Dobie.

    Megson insisted he would have no qualms about wielding the axe on his most prized possession if the time was right.

    He said: "We have made changes this season and if players aren't playing well then they can't expect to be in the team.

    "Whether one cost two and a half million or one cost £100,000, that cuts no ice.

    "But Lee has been here for two and a half weeks and we have won three games on the trot. He's started in all three of those games and he's played his part in winning them for us."

    Striker Daniele Dichio is also back in contention after shrugging off his midweek sickness bug.
     
  11. zpjohnstone

    zpjohnstone Member

    Feb 27, 2001
    Finger Lakes, NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So we pretty much now know this much for sure

    -------------Dudek------------
    ------------?-H&H-?-----------
    Murphy—Gerrard—Hamann-?
    ------------Owen-?------------

    Personally, I think we're pretty likely to find Traore & Carra at outside backs, given that Babbel was run for the full ninety the other night, and I don't think they're going to start him for the first time with less than fresh legs.

    Also, I'm wondering if it's going to be Heskey's time to sit. If I were the Boss, I might be tempted to throw Baros out there again.

    I think it's about time for Riise to get some action, as well, so here's my best guess-

    -------------Dudek-------------
    --------Traore-H&H-Carra-------
    Murphy-Gerrard-Hamann-Riise
    ----------Owen-Baros-----------

    WBA are coming off a few 1-0 wins, yes?
     
  12. 20 September 2002 : by Paul Eaton

    Henchoz back for Baggies clash

    Gerard Houllier has confirmed that key defender Stephane Henchoz will start against West Bromwich Albion at Anfield tomorrow.

    Henchoz has recovered from the calf injury which has ruled him out of Liverpool's last two games, but he will once again line up alongside captain Sami Hyypia against The Baggies.

    Houllier said: "Stephane is okay now and he will play tomorrow. We have missed him, there's no doubt about that.

    "It's hard to say that one player makes such a big difference to a team, but it's clear that we have won more games than we have lost when Sami and Stephane have played together at the back."

    Vladimir Smicer is still ruled out of action as he continues to nurse a broken toe.

    http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N136681020920-1527.htm
     
  13. JRedknapp11

    JRedknapp11 Red Card

    Dec 5, 2001
    tsacademy.net
    I'd sure like to see Cheyrou and Baros both take the pitch together pretty soon.

    Both players seem to read other well and have done very nicely in their previous reserve matches. Cheyrou has been a spark in the midfield whenever GH subs him....I'd like to think that he could give Danny a run for his money. At the very least it would spice up the midfield , which hasn't been all that spectacular in recent weeks. Hamann has really carried the load lately and also taken a lot of pressure off Traore , but when the German has an off match like Tuesday..everyone elses weeknesses seem to come to the forfront....but that's just my 2 cents.
     
  14. DevilDave

    DevilDave Member

    West Bromwich Albion/RBNY/PSG/Gamba Osaka/Sac Republic
    United States
    Sep 29, 2001
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    West Bromwich Albion FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes, Albion are coming off a few 1-0 wins...

    If Liverpool are serious about boucing back after that debacle against the Spaniards, they should play my Baggies right off the pitch.

    Having said that, however, I'm confident the Albion are going to Anfield without fear, despite this being their first match there in 16 years. The three straight wins have helped boost confidence in the team, particularly in their defence.

    IMHO, I don't think we are due to upset the Reds, but I also doubt it'll be the four-goal romp the 'Pool faithful will be seeking after what happened Tuesday.
     
  15. Matt Clark

    Matt Clark Member

    Dec 19, 1999
    Liverpool
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Too right. It will be a tight match. I reckon we'll get a 2-1 or something.
     
  16. ..................Dudek

    Carra--------H & H-------Riise

    Murphy--StevieG---Hamann--CHEYROU

    .............Owen----BAROS


    Anfield debuts in ALL CAPS

    This could be interesting . . . .

    SUBS Diao Diouf Traore Heskey Kirkland
    .
     
  17. Flying Weasel

    Flying Weasel Member

    Mar 22, 2001
    Harrisburg, PA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Line-Up: (we were pretty close in our predictions here on this board):

    1 Jerzy Dudek

    23 Jamie Carragher
    2 Stephane Henchoz
    4 Sami Hyypia
    18 John Arne Riise

    13 Danny Murphy
    16 Dietmar Hamann
    17 Steven Gerrard
    28 Bruno Cheyrou

    5 Milan Baros
    10 Michael Owen
     
  18. kopiteinkc

    kopiteinkc Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 1, 2000
    Shawnee
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
  19. Flying Weasel

    Flying Weasel Member

    Mar 22, 2001
    Harrisburg, PA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  20. DevilDave

    DevilDave Member

    West Bromwich Albion/RBNY/PSG/Gamba Osaka/Sac Republic
    United States
    Sep 29, 2001
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    West Bromwich Albion FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Alternatively, Liverpool v WBA commentary is also available from Birmingham pop station BRMB, on their "Big Birmingham Match of the Day":

    http://www.brmb.co.uk

    Click "listen live" at the top of the main page.

    While I like the WBA crew, I prefer the slightly more emphatic Tom Ross with Albion great Tony "Bomber" Brown :D
     
  21. Lanky134

    Lanky134 New Member

    Oct 25, 1999
    134, 3, 6
    20th min. 0-0. LFC with a few chances but some good saves by Hoult.

    Dave
     
  22. Lanky134

    Lanky134 New Member

    Oct 25, 1999
    134, 3, 6
    Riise and Carra being given a lot of space to come forward.
     
  23. Lanky134

    Lanky134 New Member

    Oct 25, 1999
    134, 3, 6
    24: Baros misses w/open header
     
  24. Lanky134

    Lanky134 New Member

    Oct 25, 1999
    134, 3, 6
    Owen offside 5 times in 27 minutes.

    Dudek forced to make great save from counter.
     
  25. Lanky134

    Lanky134 New Member

    Oct 25, 1999
    134, 3, 6
    LFC looking weak for the last 5 minutes. Too many giveaways and no creativity.
     

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