List of Differences Between NFHS & IFAB Soccer

Discussion in 'Referee' started by Kit, Jul 15, 2021.

  1. Bubba Atlanta

    Bubba Atlanta Member+

    Mar 2, 2012
    Yep, Atlanta
    Club:
    Atlanta United FC
    I've come perilously close to making a save once or twice. Scoring too, for that matter. I like to be close to the action. :barefoot:
     
  2. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Mar 17, 2004
    Club:
    --other--
    I suppose when we are in regional/state tournaments, the referee doesn't get the option of playing the game and reporting it when the officials they report it to are also at the match.
     
  3. Nimbus2000

    Nimbus2000 Member

    Mar 6, 2001
    Maine
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  4. RefIADad

    RefIADad Member+

    Chelsea
    United States
    Aug 18, 2017
    Des Moines, IA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Some of you work in states with relative sticks in the mud! I know of at least three high school matches in Iowa this season where referees wore socks that matched shirt colors during times that home teams wore black socks (one with USSF red, one with NISOA blue, and one with NISOA orange). Two of these happened in the girls state tournament where all of the state administrators were in attendance. Not only did no one really seem to care, I have to think the state actually encouraged the officials to do this given any administrator could have said, "Yeah, the rule says you have to wear black socks. Take the colored socks off, please".
     
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  5. jayhonk

    jayhonk Member+

    Oct 9, 2007
    Missouri.
     
  6. Pittsburgh Ref

    Pittsburgh Ref Member+

    Oct 7, 2014
    da 'Burgh
    Missouri loves comPAny

    :whistling:
     
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  7. MJ91

    MJ91 Member

    United States
    Jan 14, 2019
    Hey, now! I've got a pair of those for when i have to run AR on a local stadium's track.

    The store only had all-black in my size that day,

    Plus, they were on sale! :)
     
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  8. LampLighter

    LampLighter Member

    Bugeaters FC
    Apr 13, 2019
    There's soccer in Iowa? :p
     
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  9. Kit

    Kit Member+

    Aug 30, 1999
    Herkimer, NY, USA
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's the chart that gets published every year by the NCAA that I mentioned in the OP. I'm just looking for quick bullet points of the major differences.
     
  10. jayhonk

    jayhonk Member+

    Oct 9, 2007
    #3 and #4 on your original list are the only major differences that a long time USSF ref will encounter in his first 3 or 4 games

    The only other major in-game issue is the myriad of substitution rules and regs (including the not yet mentioned one about stopping the clock when the Winning team is subbing in the last 5 minutes).
     
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  11. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Mar 17, 2004
    Club:
    --other--
    Ease his pain.
     
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  12. DaveRef

    DaveRef New Member

    Buffalo Stallions
    Jun 13, 2010
    Geneseo, NY
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Another notable difference with Law 13...

    IFAB: When there is an attacker within a yard of a defensive wall (of 3 or more defenders) when the kick is taken, an indirect kick is awarded to the defenders.

    NFHS: When there is an attacker within a yard of a defensive wall (of 3 or more defenders), that attacker shall be cautioned (per rule 13 S3 Art1 PENALTY). This appears to be treated the same way as defenders moving closer than 10 yards from the ball -- managed or cautioned as appropriate, but without changing the restart.

    For completeness, NCAA is same as IFAB
     
  13. Barciur

    Barciur Member

    Apr 25, 2010
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Poland
    Our boss continue to claim that "more and more states are going to the three whistle system because it is the best system around". For what that's worth.. ;-)
     
  14. fairplayforlife

    fairplayforlife Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    :ROFLMAO:
     
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  15. RefIADad

    RefIADad Member+

    Chelsea
    United States
    Aug 18, 2017
    Des Moines, IA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What's really funny about this is 1) MLB umpires have worn New Balance shoes with both white logos and soles for years and 2) Now that Nike has taken over the MLB uniform supply chain, even the umpires are starting to wear Air Jordans that have quite a bit of white on them.

    https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id...-umpires-yes-umpires-stepping-their-shoe-game

    This was the "de facto" shoe for MLB umpires on the bases for years. Some did wear the all-black version, but this was the more popular version.

    https://www.ump-attire.com/Products/MU950XT3/New-Balance-V3-Black-White-Low-Cut-Umpire-Base-Shoes

    Why people get so worked up over the most mundane things is something I'll never understand.
     
  16. socal lurker

    socal lurker Member+

    May 30, 2009
    I know, it's crazy. As long as your sleeve lengths match, it's all good . . .
     
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  17. Kit

    Kit Member+

    Aug 30, 1999
    Herkimer, NY, USA
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If he believes that, there is a bridge in Brooklyn that I'd like to sell him!

    More and more states are adopting a three official system, but it's one where there is one whistle and two flags!
     
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  18. RefGil

    RefGil Member

    Dec 10, 2010
    "The politics are so vicious because the stakes are so low" -quote attributed to dozens, you pick one.
     
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  19. Pittsburgh Ref

    Pittsburgh Ref Member+

    Oct 7, 2014
    da 'Burgh
    Which is especially rich given that the scrutiny on this stuff (here) scales with how close to the state finals is the game/crew in question.
     
  20. Law5

    Law5 Member+

    Mar 24, 2005
    Beaverton OR
    Ask him to name one that has changed in the last five years.
     
  21. Law5

    Law5 Member+

    Mar 24, 2005
    Beaverton OR
    I had one assignor that decided that the crew he was assigning to a first round playoff game would use the double dual. Their first time ever using that system AND the first time the teams had seen that system. I was told that the coaches virtually had smoke coming out of their ears. We changed the state rules the next year to make DSC and dual the only permitted systems. Well, solo, too, "in an emergency."
     
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  22. voiceoflg

    voiceoflg Member+

    Dec 8, 2005
    Didn't Abraham Lincoln say that about the internet?
     
  23. MJ91

    MJ91 Member

    United States
    Jan 14, 2019
    #98 MJ91, Jul 28, 2021
    Last edited: Jul 28, 2021
    We finally got a couple of new recruits for this upcoming HS season (yay!!).

    At our recent association meeting, one asked, "What's this Double-Dual thingy i read about in the NFHS book?" .... "OHHHH, NO NOOO! DON'T even ask about that!!" was the typical reply. Fwiw, my state doesn't do the double-dual.

    Regarding HS solos, I'm not certain if my state actually forbids it or if it's just my association's rule, but our local association president states every year regarding doing a HS game solo, "If your dual partner doesn't show up, do not ever do a game solo. Not matter what they ask, say, or promise. Ever. Period."

    Though, there's only a couple of very, very low-skilled HS teams i'd ever think about doing solo and only if they were playing each other.

    (Edit) If more of them focused on just trying to play soccer, it'd be a different deal. But, we have too many putting extra effort into engineered shenanigans (due to low soccer IQ, both players & coaches) instead of emphasizing proper touches, tactics, etc. to ever have less than a dual.
     
  24. Kit

    Kit Member+

    Aug 30, 1999
    Herkimer, NY, USA
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have never done a varsity game solo. But I have done a junior high game solo. After that game, I told my assignor that I’d do junior high games solo anytime he wants me to. Around here, you get paid 1-and-a-half game fee for a solo. That means you end up making just as much as you do for a varsity game and there is less time commitment. Also for some reason, junior high teams seem to have their defenders stand up n the top of the penalty area and not move; it makes calling offside really easy.
     
  25. gaolin

    gaolin Member

    Apr 21, 2019
    I've never done HS solos for JV/V but I have done Varsity duals with teams expected to win which made staying on one side easier.

    Of course, there's always certain HS match-ups that require a full crew... then the backup must appear..
     

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