Lineups, US vs. England

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by superdave, Jun 12, 2010.

  1. TabLalas

    TabLalas Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
    Jersey
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well that's the thing, how hard would it have been for him to insert Torres or Edu based off of their solid play?
     
  2. alffy

    alffy Member

    Sep 9, 2001
    Seattle-ish
    Maybe we get lucky and Clark draws a red on a crappy tackle on Rooney that causes him to snap and lash out in response drawing his own red?

    That would be the best thing Clark could do for this team, get suspended while getting Rooney tossed. Maybe in the 3rd minute?
     
  3. Karmaball

    Karmaball New Member

    Jun 15, 2009
    I just don't see Jozy scoring. I can see him missing good oppurtunities. With Buddle if he's anywhere around the penalty box I feel like it's more of a sure thing than Jozy. I predict Bradley regretting this decision and playing Buddle the other games. Who else sees this happening?
     
  4. TabLalas

    TabLalas Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
    Jersey
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wouldn't go that far.
    I don't know, I just don't get it.
     
  5. OleGunnar20

    OleGunnar20 Member+

    Dec 7, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    i think you are right. you have to start at least one forward who can score. either buddle/findley or altidore/findley. the WORST possible thing bob could have done, not surprisingly the thing he has done, is start the two guys who can't score for shite. way to go bob. that is some damn tactical genius there.

    now let's hope they both score goals and make me look like an idiot and bob like a genius.
     
  6. kennytt

    kennytt Member+

    LA teams, OC SC
    May 26, 2001
    Santa Ana, OC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, I can see it coming...:)
     
  7. TabLalas

    TabLalas Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
    Jersey
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think you're all alone there, buddy.
     
  8. luftmensch

    luftmensch Member+

    .
    United States
    May 4, 2006
    Petaluma
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm predicting Clark scores a screamer, just to piss off this thread.:D
     
  9. Nermalthecat

    Nermalthecat Member

    Mar 1, 2001
    Avon, CT
    I think we have a huge disconnect between our unskilled back six and the top four who are going to be starved for possession. Expect lots of hoofed balls over the top. We'll see if we can catch their suspect back four.

    Clark ... I hope you prove me wrong, but I doubt it.
     
  10. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ruud Gullit is arguing that it's a risk to include Onyewu in the Starting XI. I completely disagree. I would have made the same decision and not given it much thought. He's 1.5* the player No Clearance Goodson is even with his patella in his quad. The alternatives at Bob's disposal aren't particularly palatable, although I'd have preferred to see Omar Gonzalez in Princeton.
     
  11. Jumbalaya

    Jumbalaya Member+

    Apr 27, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Sunderland AFC
    Jozy will jog half the match and maybe have one good look at goal a blow it. Findley is going to give possession away 90% of the time he has the ball at his feet against this side. I can't wait to see Donovan&Dempsey half dead by the 60th min for covering for our two most out of form forwards right now (who are starting!!!!!!!).

    Bob you wow us all again with your inconceivable team selection.
     
  12. counterattack

    counterattack New Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Tactically, it seems Bradley went for the tried and true combination of size and speed up front. That is okay. You can bring in a Buddle in and get an impact that changes the dynamic of a game. If it is a game. But it won't be.

    But Clark is inexplicable. Almost capitulation. Is he there to protect Bob's kid?

    Prediction: 4-0 England. Clark's last game for the US.
     
  13. justwonder

    justwonder Member

    Jan 29, 2006
    I love it, Bob really know how to piss BS off, hahaha
     
  14. alffy

    alffy Member

    Sep 9, 2001
    Seattle-ish
    And I will kiss his feet if that's the case.

    But on the face of it, this sure appears a REALLY bad choice based on recent form and injuries.
     
  15. seeds

    seeds Member

    Apr 23, 2002
    NYC
    Its official. This thread is three pages long and its already irritating. Might as well rename it the official Bob Bradley Bashing thread.

    Let's review the bitching -

    "Why Findley instead of Buddle" Jeeze I don't know, because we've played better with a speed threat available up top to open things up, even if he's not the best finisher.

    "Why Clark instead of Torres or Edu?" Oh, maybe because this is our toughest game against the best and most exerienced midfield we'll face and that Clark, for all his limitations, has been in the big battles against big teams before. He's there to help keep the game close enough to bring on the more offensive minded but less experienced options later.

    "Why is Bob so conservative?" He's rolling out a 4-4-2 with the only available speed threat we have, rolling the dice on Gooch so he can play Boca at LB, and keeping Bornstein on the bench. It's not a 4-5-1 and its not setting up to be pure bunkerball. It's a line up design the keep us in the game long enough to have a chance to nick some points. Can we chill the ******** out until the game is over?
     
  16. Shiznizzle

    Shiznizzle Member

    Feb 10, 2009
    Orlando
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hope your right.
     
  17. JeremyEritrea

    JeremyEritrea Member+

    Jun 29, 2006
    Takoma Park, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Can you people complaining about the lineup please STFU, at least for now?

    It's time to be a supporter, not a critic!!

    GO USA!
     
  18. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree. Nobody necessarily skilled enough in that central midfield to link up with the a-mids through the seams and nobody with heading ability up front to win the hoof balls. It could be a perilous formula.
     
  19. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

    Jan 10, 2001
    New Jersey
    You forgot "Why Altidore instead of Buddle."


    And that may be what kills us.
     
  20. alffy

    alffy Member

    Sep 9, 2001
    Seattle-ish
    We're all supporters her and love this team. That's why we're here.

    I'll be a full-on supporter the minute the ball is kicked. Just having a little fun venting and letting off a bit of nervous energy before the kick.

    It's all fun.
     
  21. OleGunnar20

    OleGunnar20 Member+

    Dec 7, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC

    i have no problem starting findley for speed and movement, but then you cannot start altidore. somebody up front needs to be a clinical finisher and i am pretty sure 2 EPL goals Altidore and Shankapotomous Findley and the term "clinical finishing" are not used in the same sentence unless the term "are f**king not" is thrown into the mix.

    and i don't care how many games clark has started he has been the WORST central midfielder and if it weren't for borensuck the worst field player in the entire lead up to the WC. edu is better defensively and torres is better with control, passing, possession and attacking. clark is the combination of the weakest parts of those two combined into one player. he shouldn't even be in SA so leave it to bradley to start him. classic bradley.
     
  22. TabLalas

    TabLalas Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
    Jersey
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd say most of the ire is directed at the Ricardo Clark inclusion after inconsistent play the last month combined with Torres' looking very good.
    You don't think this criticism is warranted?
     
  23. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The ghost of Paul Mokeski!!

    Altidore isn't a back to the goal striker. Hull used him that way when Brown was being stupid. I like Buddle as the back-to-goal striker, paired with Jozy.

    Anyway, Bradley's legacy will live or die with the play of Findley and Clark, and the stamina of Onyewu.
     
  24. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Solution: Don't read the thread because critiques are rather predictable. This is the USA Men: News and Analysis board.

    People agreeing with every decision wouldn't be very analytical, or realistic, really.

    And it doesn't make you a better fan to blindly support every decision a coach makes. What makes you a fan is a desire for the team to win. Just about everybody here who is being critical hopes they are proven incorrect, or the the team is victorious in spite of the decisions.

    I think a better call is for us to unify and not attack each other regardless of our perspective because we share the same ally and enemy, and in the end all want the same thing.
     
  25. alocksley

    alocksley Member

    Jan 30, 2004
    Burbank, CA
    Just remember, we have all slammed BB's lineup choices before and wound up with egg on our faces. Anyone remember Conor Casey vs Honduras?
     

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