Lineups, Formations, Tactics, Stats, etc.

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  1. staudio

    staudio Member+

    Mar 7, 2008
    Marin
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They will win a few games between now and the end of the season.

    In the off season CL will meet with Fisher and say "Ian is our guy, and if we open up the check book just a little and provide him some reinforcements, we will be a playoff team in 2025".

    Fisher's response "No need to sign new players, we improved a bit at the end of the season, we'll be fine next year".
     
  2. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    #1827 JazzyJ, Aug 26, 2024
    Last edited: Aug 26, 2024
    Good question. Where will be at the start of next season? Let's assume that the team continues to play better and Ian gets the job. So at least we know we have a competent coach. Could we get a better one? Maybe, but then they you're rolling the dice again and you could wind up with another Stahre. Remember, we've already done that. Dumped the internal interim guy who was doing pretty well (Leitch) for a new guy who turns out to be much worse. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth, and a bird in hand, and all that kinda stuff.

    Now looking at the roster, we're going to get some improvement "for free" assuming Daniel and Wilson are healthy for most of the year (and maybe even JT can be available as a 2nd guy). As for upgrades, we'll still have all of our DP slots taken unless we can transfer Gruezo (yes, please). And we have all of our U22 slots available. I think if we can find a way to dump Gruezo and sign a DP forward + a couple U22 players who are good, we could be improved enough to sneak into the playoffs next year. Not expecting a juggernaut but at least a team that is competing for playoff spots.
     
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  3. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    yikes

     
  4. SoccerMan94043

    SoccerMan94043 Member+

    May 29, 2003
    San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    that's surprisingly low.
     
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  5. markmcf8

    markmcf8 Member+

    Oct 18, 1999
    Vancouver, WA, USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So ...

    If Ian Russell remains the coach next season, what sort of strategies and tactics do we expect from him? On the one hand, we know that he likes the 4-4-2. On the other hand, he tends to use the players he has to what he thinks is best effect.

    We have some speedy players, so I expect more counter attacking. It has looked good the few times we've tried it. (Which begs the question why don't we use it more often?!)

    Of course, he's going to change the roster around as much as he can. Will he go 3-5-2? or will he go 4-4-2. But I don't expect him to carry on with the 4-3-3 (4-5-1) that we play now.

    What do you all think? What do you hope for? Including a new coach.

    Go Quakesfans!!
     
  6. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    I think there's a pretty good chance that Ian is not coach next year. Why? 1) There's probably a 50-50 or so chance that CL is gone at the end of the year, and that means new GM and probably new coach. 2) time is running out for Ian to show that he's really getting better results from the team - to a significant degree. I thought he might be getting there but the last 2 games have been quite poor. So let's say 50-50 chance that CL is GM, and 50-50 chance that CL, if GM, retains Ian. That's a 25% chance that he's the coach next year.

    Anyway, if he is coach, I think he'll want to play a 4-4-2 and play a relatively direct style. He's not a possession guy. More of a press / counter press quick attack kind of guy. He's not super different to Luchi I don't think except Luchi really emphasized shape a lot whereas I think Ian emphasizes pressure more.
     
  7. QuakeAttack

    QuakeAttack Member+

    Apr 10, 2002
    California - Bay Area
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who are our speedy players? Bouda and ?. We are not a slow team, but Vancouver made us look like one last week.

    Sorry, it's pretty obvious that formation changes by Ian won't change the outcome much. We don't have the players. For next year, if we keep Ian, we need to get more players who fit his pressing approach earlier in games and defenders who can handle teams in transition.

    We are going to have to make a lot of changes and it will be difficult for any coach to get them to come together at the start of the season. The best that we can hope is to find some of the right players, right the ship soon enough in the season, and be competitive for the remainder. Anything beyond that is a pipe dream from my perspective.
     
  8. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    I'm not sure that Bouda is even that fast. I would say Benji, Espinoza, Pelligrino (once he gets into a spring), Bouda, and Jebo is eh, moderately fast. Ricketts, but he's been out injured most of the season.
     
  9. markmcf8

    markmcf8 Member+

    Oct 18, 1999
    Vancouver, WA, USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hernán is not slow. Not a speedster, but OK.
    Marie has wheels.

    My point about counterattacking is that we’ve been successful when we’ve done it. Draw the other guys out, then hit Espinosa, Benji, Pelle, or Bouda with a long ball. We have enough speed in those guys to play that way.

    Also it let’s us keep more guys back on defense, which we need.

    We keep sending too many guys on offense and getting caught out on the counter. I don’t like it.

    Go Quakesfans!!
     
  10. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Yeah, we can't be a team that controls possession and scores off of brilliant movement and incisive passing. Won't work. We don't have the players for that. So we have to be a ball-winning / counterattack team. That doesn't necessarily mean long ball, but winning the ball in good positions, and quick attacks.

    I think we need to put a premium on playing ball-winning guys. Most of our forwards and mids are mediocre ball winners. Gruezo, Yueill, Niko, Pellegrino, Jebo - all mediocre ball winners. Hernan is not great at it but occasionally does it. Bouda fouls a lot but sometimes wins it. Espinoza wins it sometimes. But none of the mids are good ball winners. Morales will try and sometimes win it, even if he's a bit slow at this point in his career.
     
  11. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Quakes 25.6%... not sure if that's good or bad

     

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