Libertarian failure thread, 2.0

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by superdave, Sep 14, 2020.

  1. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Bitcoin Bros want govt solutions

    1864932128359662068 is not a valid tweet id
     
  2. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

    Jan 10, 2001
    New Jersey
    Screen shot these

    Edit: only took five refreshes and quoting it to see it
     
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  3. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    To be fair, it probably wasn't Hawk Tuah who rugged - usually what happens is the rug people pay an influencer to hype the coin.
     
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  4. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    Well, I certainly hope she got her cut of the rug pull. Seems only fair.
     
  5. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Canton,NY
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's the Paul brothers.
     
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  6. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Not sure. Someone rouse her from bed to check.
     
  7. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Interesting. They've rugged before.
     
  8. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    I just hope girl got some millions for herself

    In many ways this is just the perfect story for our times
     
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  9. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    She was probably the only one dumb enough to hold lol

    It's kind of amazing anyone still falls for these scams - you have to know your dumb money IS the rug money
     
  10. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    She couldn't sell. That would look too obvious. Apparently she has 10% stake and has to hold for at least a year and gets 50% of proceeds after some admin cost is paid out. It looks like she got $125k up front though (lawyer response to the Coffeezilla guy).

    What it looks like they did is distribute or pre-sell the con ... I mean coin ... to a bunch of friends and friends of friends (called "strategic" stake and 17% of the float) who had the right to sell right away at launch with lockup expiry period. My guess is they also hire some people (i think they are called snipers) to drive the price up at the open by buying big lots of the small float available to attract the suckers and then dump on all of them. Or maybe the snipers are independent ...regardless, those "strategic" people holding the coin dumped a big chunk of their coins which is visible on the blockchain.

    Oh yeah ... and whoever was organizing this charged 15% fee on transactions which was supposedly meant to keep snipers away. They pocketed more than $1m in those fees.
     
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  11. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    This is why we don't let people promote unregistered securities.

    Unless you are an insider, you will be the bag holder. But great news, David Sacks is going to the Trump's AI and Crypto Czar!
     
  12. Pønch

    Pønch Saprissista

    Aug 23, 2006
    Donde siempre
    As always, if you don't know who's the mark, you're the mark
     
  13. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Just to add ... by giving tokens away to "friends", they can say that the insiders involved in the project didn't sell anything ... but who knows what kind of deal they have with those "friends" that got free tokens or paid an amount to get them.
     
  14. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    The govt might want to regulate this! :rolleyes:
     
  15. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    I kind of thought we'd seen the end of these kinds of super obvious insider rugs

    Ms Tuah really ought to invoke her right to silence pretty quickly
     
  16. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

    Mar 1, 1999
    San Rafael, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    It is very very much the opposite. These things are being made continuously on the Solana blockchain, most of them rugging within minutes. It's honestly like a slot machine for the people putting money in - you find out pretty much immediately whether they come out up of down. Usually down, of course. Like a slot machine.
     
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  17. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    From comments I've seen, this one might have been big enough that the SEC will have to do something about it to set an example. I don't pay attention to this world, but it looks like there is stuff like this going on very often but on a smaller scale.
     
  18. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    WRONG THREAD!!!!!11!
     
  19. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Definitely

    If you did something like this for just a few million in actual securities you'd be prosecuted for real. Crypto has been lol nothing matters but that has changed in recent years. This is a fairly obvious criminal fraud for a wild amount of money.

    She is very stupid to be saying anything which indicates she is involved in operations
     
  20. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    She's counting on her white countrygirlness to shield her.
     
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  21. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Well ... actually there are a lot of pump and dump schemes in the market and the SEC doesn't really do much about it. From pump trading rooms that charge for "education" to companies that put out BS PRs to pump and dump. There is a lot of shit that goes on unchecked and I am not even talking about OTC markets.
     
  22. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
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    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Mr. Ponzi would be so jealous.
     
  23. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Argentina experiment, 1 year later by economics explained.

     
  24. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Milei is in the one situation where you want a free-market libertarian. Argentina's government apparatus was purposefully bloated to obscene levels in order to create jobs for the party membership. You need a true-believer type to go at that level of bloat. It does help that he is an actual economist.
     
  25. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It may just work.

    "Argentina’s economy is experiencing a notable shift, reporting a 3.9% growth in the third quarter of 2024 compared to the previous quarter.

    This growth is a welcome change after three quarters of decline, but the annual data tells a more complex story. The GDP has dropped by 2.1% compared to the same quarter last year. However, this is an improvement over analysts’ predictions of a 2.6% contraction."


    https://www.riotimesonline.com/argentinas-gdp-grows-3-9-in-q3-2024-after-recession/
     
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