Libertadores Cup Qualifying

Discussion in 'CONCACAF' started by jamesfoulds, Feb 24, 2004.

  1. jamesfoulds

    jamesfoulds New Member

    Jan 28, 2004
    nottingham
    WHY DID MONTERREY NOT PLAY IN QUALIFYING COMPETITION FOR LIB CUP 2004. IT WAS THE TOP 8 AFTER 38 GAMES OF 2002/03 SEASON AND THEY WERE 7. THOUGH ATLAS IN POSITION 9 PLAYED IN TOURNAMENT. WHY DID MONTERREY NOT PLAY AS THEY WERE 2003 SUMMER CHAMPIONS. CAN ANYBODY TELL ME
     
  2. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
  3. MoRado

    MoRado New Member

    Feb 6, 2004
    San José. Costa Rica
    Club:
    Deportivo Saprissa
    Nat'l Team:
    Costa Rica
    Take a look at this....i wonder why the mexican and usa teams are closing their respective games at home????
    This aint fair, every concacaf tournament, either clubs or national competitions are "pre-setted for MEX and USA", the pre-olympic tournament was the same for example....


    Also I wonder why teams as COMUNICACIONES, MUNICIPAL, SAPRISSA, ALAJUELA, MOTAGUa, FAS, even the usa teams dont have a chance on the LIBERTADORES cup, probably they are not as good as BOCA or SANTOS, but they are as good or even better than bolivian, venezuelan, ecuatorian, peruan....teams....

    PLEASE....open your eyes to the rest of AMERICA!!!
     
  4. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    I agree, the 1st home team should be drawn.
     
  5. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Well for one thing Bolivia, Venezuela, Ecuador, and Peru are all South American countries. CONEMBOL is not going to take away spots from it's own countries and give them to non South American teams.
     
  6. MoRado

    MoRado New Member

    Feb 6, 2004
    San José. Costa Rica
    Club:
    Deportivo Saprissa
    Nat'l Team:
    Costa Rica
    Dude.....as far as i know MEXICO is a north American country... i think you didnt get my point....i mean why only mexicans teams can join the LIBERTADORES ???
     
  7. Aguilas Del America

    Oct 28, 2002
    Nido de Coapa
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Because we PAID with our own money to get those two spots.
     
  8. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Well the reason is that the Mexican fed took it upon themselves to get their teams in the comp. If the Venezuelan FA hadn't been willing to put up their spots then no Mexico in the Libertadores. Now unless you expand the Libertadores to 40 or take spots away from South American countries the Central Americans wont get any spots. Another thing beside being competitive the Mexican teams bring a lot of money with them.
     
  9. Don Boppero 3000

    Don Boppero 3000 DNALMQNLGLLMX!

    Jan 15, 2001
    National Museum of Mexican Art
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    sorry charlie!

    Aside from the cash they bring the Mexican teams bring in alot of eyeballs too.
     
  10. jamesfoulds

    jamesfoulds New Member

    Jan 28, 2004
    nottingham
    can anybody answer the question please! why didnt monterrey play surely somebody out there knows why they didnt
     
  11. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Check the thread you started in the Mexico forum.
     
  12. Monkeyboy2000

    Monkeyboy2000 Member

    Jan 27, 2000
    San Fran Bay Area
    Club:
    CDSC Cruz Azul
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    For years Mexico had been trying to enter teams in the Libertadores tourney. Finally, an entrepreneur was able to cut a deal with the Venezuelan Federation to have a tournament between Venezuelan and Mexican teams to fight for the two Venezuelan spots in the Libertadores.

    To recover the investment paid to the Venezuelan Federation, the Mexican teams that were to play off against the Venezuelan teams were determined via a tournament typically called the pre-pre Libertadores. These games were played in several cities in the US and broadcast in Mexico. This arrangement worked well. The two Mexican teams that qualified from the pre-pre then faced off against the Venezuelan teams and against each other in a round-robin mini-tourney called the pre-Libertadores.

    When CONMEBOL expanded the Libertadores tourney this year to 36 teams, Mexico were allocated two direct slots. I'm assuming this was because of the good showing of the Mexican teams in previous tournaments and because of the increased revenues from selling the games to be shown in Mexico and in the US.
     
  13. changoguapo

    changoguapo New Member

    Mar 11, 2004
    Bakersfield, Cali.


    Because Monterrey and Pachuca have to play in Concacaf Champions Cup becuase they are champions.Thats one of the conditions of Mexico playing Libertadores, the Mexican Champion has to play in the Concacaf.
     
  14. changoguapo

    changoguapo New Member

    Mar 11, 2004
    Bakersfield, Cali.

    Mexico for years have been invited to south america. The Copa America and Libertadores. May seem unfair to those teams not invited, but its fair for mexican teams since they have been working on this for 6 years, paying money, and playing 3 games a week in some occasions. The good standings of 2000-Atlas(Quarters)/America (Semis) , Cruz Azul 2001(Finals), 2002-America(Semis)/Morelia (Quarters) remember they played each other in the Quarters, 2003-Cruz Azul (Quarterfinals), i think the mexican teams have earned it.
    I do agree that the Concacaf Champions Cup favors US/Mexican temas and Gold Cup is very rigged. Im mexican, but i think it should be played in a Host country. I do see the logistical problems of some Carribean/CA countries, but its not like joint hosting's never been done before.
     

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