Let's haver some fun with the VP nomination. Who would be your choice? Feel free to post the rationa

And in honor of the thread's title...

 

I remember recording this when recording for me meant from the radio.

 

What I really want to know is who is she gonna replace Garland with?

 

A straight, married, white male from a swing state is a given. I'm leaning towards Shapiro since he's from the swing state with the highest electoral votes (PA = 19 votes).

But him being Jewish, would that have some kind of drag on some section of voters (e.g. pro-Palestine far left or subconsciously racist independents who don't like seeing two minorities in the ticket)?

 

Yes, sir. The shoebox cassette player with the mic taped to the clock radio. Changing stations every time something came on I didn't care for, in hopes of catching a song I did like enough to record.

This would have been fall of 9th grade for me but the recording bug really kicked off in the summer between seventh and eighth grade. That was the last summer where my time was my own because my middle school drum line did not train in the summer; after that it was HS, where drum line and color guard began for incoming freshmen as soon as school was out, followed by the rest of band a few weeks later.

 

What about Conor Lamb?

Straight, married white Catholic Male Veteran from a swing state.

Also not jewish, so we wouldn't also have to hear the George Soros bullshyte as it pertains to his faith as it would with Shapiro.

 

I was going to say this a few hours ago but got sidetracked.

 

He's been out of office for a couple of years, and his highest held office was as a congressman.

 

And? How is that any worse than Vance's [snicker] 2 years in the Senate?

I actually think its better than Vance, in that Lamb is from a swing state [PA], whereas Vance is from Cherry-Red Ohio. They're both non-combat veterans, but where Vance is a writer, Lamb is an attorney.

As well all know, attorneys routinely fashion high bullshyte from whole cloth verbally, so it could help on the campaign trail.

 

I was just thinking about the name recognition. Senators get elected by a statewide ballot, while congresspeople from a district. Plus he's been out of politics for a while, and the Dems don't have plenty of time left to do a lot of campaigning. Anyway, looks like he's not on the shortlist, so it's a moot point.

 

Of the shortlisted names here, only Cooper/Kelly/Shapiro make any sense.

I don't see NC coming over to the blue, so Cooper makes less sense than Kelly or Shapiro.

Of those two, I've already voiced my view on putting another senate seat into any matter of question, even for a minute, so no to Kelly.

On Shapiro, he IS from a larger swing state than AZ, but is his "Q Rating" > Lamb's?

I'm not so sure, at least, nationally. What's more, you've ALREADY got the racist and sexist angles against Harris, but then with Shapiro, you add into it the antisemetic angle. You may also harm the ticket's chances in Michigan, and with the pro-palestinian wing of the Dems.


With Lamb, he has the "white/married/hetero/veteran" boxes all checked, and he's had some media exposure from his time in Congress. IOW, he brings MOST of what Shapiro brings, WITHOUT any of the negatives.

 

No one is "subconsciously racist"

 

Right. Maybe "quietly racist" is a better term here...

 

I guess somewhere deep down I knew, just forgotten.
I see your issue from both sides. My son in law is South Pacific Polynesian and very dark. Sometimes when they visit he gets taken, before he opens his mouth for African American.
He’s pretty even tempered and just lets the comments ride.

 

So they’re your choices for VP. ???

 

Interesting reminder on the PSA podcast yesterday about the VP naming process. Normally, campaigns have a lot more time to vet candidates. Not so much in this case. Honestly, I'm not sure how much careful vetting matters anymore, especially when this individual will be compared to Trump and Vance and the toxic baggage they're each carrying around, right out in the open. Still, it always shocks me that presumably smart people assume that, while they've seen it happen to other candidates, surely no one will ever find out about their illegitimate child, or that pesky domestic violence incident from a few decades ago, or that time they were arrested in college for selling drugs...

Really, it's less about a comparison with Trump and Vance, since their deplorable base seems attracted to the cruelty and toxicity. It's all to do with energizing the Dem base. And vetting, in that case, matters.

 

I'm guessing that all of these potential Vice Presidents have had opposition research done on them before, so anything like that likely would have surfaced in the run ups to prior elections.

 

You means like NY Dems did on George Santos?

I mean, sure, opposition research would have been done. But there's research and the there's RESEARCH. This is someone who'll be on a presidential ticket. That's a whole different ballgame, with national (even global) interests involved in digging up crap. You don't get that kind of process when you're running for governor.

 

Fair point, but those guys were incompetent to the extreme.

And for the most part, I was thinking of opposition research already done by the GOP. I'm pretty sure they dug deep to find dirt on the likes of ... pretty much everyone on on every VP list I've seen so far. Given the dirt bags supporting Shapiro's opponent, for instance, they would have left no festering maggot unturned in order to find something rotten.

 

Not sure where to put this as it hits a variety of topics, but since Pete has been discussed here I'll put it here.

Pete on Harris, Donald and the Deplorable, etc. My favorite line is "chaos is his oxygen" in reference to the orange fascist. I find it curious that in the chyron giving Pete's credentials, they focus on his past as mayor and presidential candidate, not on his present role as Sec of Transportation. Regardless, he's very good.

 

Every time I hear Pete talk, I come away more impressed. It seems silly to say since Kamala is the nominee and Biden is the Prez, but Pete really emerged as one of the big winners from the 2020 mess. From being a mayor of a college town in Indiana to being a potential VP pick? You go Pete.

 

I referred to these people a few days ago, and I was assured they all vote for Trump anyway.

 

Eh, I still think it matters to appeal to whatever "center" there is in the country as well.