Let's haver some fun with the VP nomination. Who would be your choice? Feel free to post the rationa

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Pick your VP.....

Poll closed Aug 12, 2024.
  1. Shapiro

    33.3%
  2. Whitmer

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Cooper

    3.0%
  4. Beshear

    12.1%
  5. Kelly

    9.1%
  6. Polis

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. Buttigieg

    33.3%
  8. Pritzker

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  9. Someone else

    9.1%
  1. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who should be Harris VP? What should he/she brings to the table?
    I added the most obvious choices. Feel free to add any news names to the comments in the thread.
     
  2. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would vote Shapiro. He is a top tier candidate and definitely has the chops to be on a ticket. He would lock Pa once or all too. Beashar could be a great VP candidate too, obviously we can't expect that will move Ky to the democratic camp though. Cooper however would put NC in play.
     
  3. Funkfoot

    Funkfoot Member+

    May 18, 2002
    New Orleans, LA
    I agree it should be a white man from a swing state. That means Kelly, Cooper or Shapiro. No idea who among them is a good campaigner, their take on the issues, etc.
     
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  4. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Shapiro is pretty freaking impressive. My wife wanted our college to give him an honorary degree when he was PA's AG and he chronicled the full extent of the Catholic church's role in the sex abuse cover up (naming the names of bishops). Alas, the president of the college didn't want to draw attention to the nutcases who think it's anti-Catholic to protect Catholic children from abuse, and their families from the fallout.
     
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  5. Val1

    Val1 Member+

    Arsenal
    Mar 12, 2004
    MD's Eastern Shore
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I want Whitmer, but Shapiro makes a lot of sense.
     
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  6. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I like Buttigieg because it's a bold choice, but also because then the entire ticket is Biden admin members. Nips any hint that the Democrats are running from Biden's record (as opposed to his fitness for another four years) in the bud.
     
  7. raza_rebel

    raza_rebel Member+

    Dec 11, 2000
    Club:
    Univ de Chile
    Shapiro seems like the smart pick IMHO. Beshear would be solid, but he would not flip Kentucky in a presidential election. Besides, I can't remember where I read this but he is aiming to take Mitch McConnell's seat in 2027. This would be a better move and he has a better shot at getting that seat. Shapiro could deliver Dems a big swing state. Shapiro has Appalachia running right through the state and he could provide the anti-JD Vance stance and potentially deliver Pa.

    NC seems like a reach for Dems right now.

    I like Gov Whitmer. She could deliver Michigan and has the chops to be on the national stage. But, and I hate to say this, two women on the ticket seems like a bad move. I hate even writing this out, but this is the United States and we rejected the most accomplished female politician in decades over a reality TV show host. I know that Hillary received more votes than Trump in 2016, but I don't think the US is ready for an all-female ticket.
     
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  8. MattR

    MattR Member+

    Jun 14, 2003
    Reston
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    DC United
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    United States
    For me, it's hard to distinguish the misogyny from the last name. She was a woman, yes, an accomplished woman. But she also shared a last name with an impeached, successful former president that was on the recieving end of the Newt machine for a decade.
     
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  9. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
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    Chicago Red Stars
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    United States
    Pete!

    Because we need a fabulous ticket.
     
  10. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who was Clinton VP pick?

    I have been thinking for 5 minutes and can't remember.

    I guess I could Google it.
     
  11. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My dream, in order:
    1 - Buttigieg: he is so versed and able to speak to so many different groups, and is the ultimate team player.
    2 - Whitmer: great politician, not afraid of the confrontation which will come.
    3 - Polis: really strong on the environment and will help much with bringing in the youth vote
    4 - Shapiro: has a great history and will likely bring/make sure PA is blue.
    5 - Beshear: Amazing job to get elected in KY; might not help win KY, but will bring in a lot of moderate voters which will help swing states.

    Discounted
    Newsom: also a great team player, but a bit too left; also probably too ambitious.
    Kinzinger: would bring a lot of moderates, both from politics but also his military background, but is mostly anti-Trump

    Unsure about everybody else.

    My realistic order:
    Shapiro
    Beshear
    Polis
    Whitmer
    Buttigieg
     
  12. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Kane (Kaine?), from VA. Generic White male.
     
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  13. raza_rebel

    raza_rebel Member+

    Dec 11, 2000
    Club:
    Univ de Chile
    Tim Kaine. I live in Virginia, and he was and still is the Va Sen, so it is an unfair question. I think Whitmer would mop the floor with JD Vance. The Kentuckian in me wants Beshear to stay in Kentucky. My heart says Whitmer, but my head says Shapiro. My stomach says I missed lunch.
     
  14. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I want Buttigieg for the reasons below, but also I want him as the same backup that Harris was for Biden and Biden was for Obama

    You assassinate me - you get this...

     
  15. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
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    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    FWIW--and I'm a Virginian and I like Kaine quite a bit--he's a bit of a cautionary tale about assuming the conventional wisdom about balancing tickets or looking for a swing-state politician still matters in the age of top-down, national-politics--driven culture-war politics. Just because something seems eminently reasonable on paper doesn't mean it's going to factor into a race where passions and partisan identity trump just about every other consideration.

    I'm not blaming Kaine for Clinton's loss, just saying that he obviously didn't help her win nor did he make much of an impression, period.
     
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  16. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
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    United States
    Fun fact: My elementary school was at the corner of Clinton and Kane streets.
     
  17. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There's two things so far that are gonna be F-U-N to watch:

    1) Kamala Harris gets a lot of hate from the left because she used to be a cop. Yeah, they're gonna have to vote for a former cop to if they don't want Trump. Sure, they *could* vote third-party, but that isn't a realistic choice. It'd be like voting for me in a car race when the realistic options are Jeff Gordon and Dale Earnhardt Jr.

    2) I'm not sure the best way to paraphrase this next one, so yeah... here's the image:
    Screenshot_20240722-144643.png

    I do think she has to go with a well-established centrist Dem. You gotta go for the middle swing voters. And yeah, sorry radical progressive leftists...I don't think it will be a minority LGBTQ athiest, whatever. It's probably gonna be a white male and you're gonna be upset, but it's better than the alternative.
     
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  18. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Olympia
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France

    So you're saying I don't have a shot at it? :(
     
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  19. Funkfoot

    Funkfoot Member+

    May 18, 2002
    New Orleans, LA
    I think it's not the time to invest in third party alternatives. In fact, I think the RFK campaign is going to whither away and die (like a brain worm).
     
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  20. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--

    A Black woman and a White woman?
    A Black woman and a gay man?

    Are y'all crazy?

    Biden's choice of Kamala is already going to make this election more difficult than it needed to be. Now you want her to stir the damn pot even more than she already does with XX and skin color? Go for a garden variety White guy before your optimism gets Sounders killed, and probably me, DT, and Charlie.
     
  21. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pete is also a veteran who deployed to Afghanistan (albeit, not in a combat unit).
     
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  22. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
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    Chicago Fire
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  23. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Olympia
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France

    If they want a ticket that would be quick-witted with snappy piercing one-liner comebacks, then, yeah, a black woman and a gay guy would be perfect - it would be very hard to beat that combination. Both groups have learned how to use language to their advantage.

    One of the lines from Glee that I loved was: "Mercedes is black, I'm gay; we make culture" (see clip below). But this isn't a Glee re-boot. Lives are on the line.

     
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  24. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    Well, Whitmer announced this morning she is staying in Michigan. She is not interested to be on a ticket.
     
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  25. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Yeesh... I saw that as many days as not when I was teaching at failing schools. There's no way you would know this, but it's extremely counterproductive and not funny to me at all (the Black female part- I didn't see the gay part).

    400 years of miseducation is a mofo.
     
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