Let the games begin: Konrad de la Fuente at Olympiakos (olf Olympic Marseille)

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  1. Casper

    Casper Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    New York
    You even left out Bello and Reynolds from '01!

    I'd be more worried about it if the '02s didn't include Reyna, Musah, Scally, M. Tillman, and Busio. Of course, 4 or 5 of those guys could be deemed too valuable to release.
     
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  2. grandinquisitor28

    Feb 11, 2002
    Nevada
    Maybe you know the details (I don't), but the only positive thing I can see, at least for Uly, is that after a strong '19-'20, '20-'21 was a complete disaster for him, and supposedly involved some personal, family or some sort of issues, not sure what. He vanished, bubbled back up at St. Polten in Austria, and actually played last year. Granted it's a horrific level (Austria 2nd tier), but he finally played minutes after disappearing for a year and was reasonably okay at least in terms of counting stats (6 goals, 2 assists in 1700 minutes), this year he has 3 goals in about 650 minutes. I don't really know what this means, but if nothing else, at least it stabilized. With KDLF it just looks hopeless.

    How has Tessman been? All I know about Venezia is they got relegated after a solid start to the '21-'22 season, and they've more or less imploded in Serie B this year. Tessman seemed to be coming around last spring. Any reports on how he's played?
     
  3. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bello is a 2002

    Reynolds, yes, I should have mentioned him as a 2001 (I went back and edited my initial post to include him). I am not sure if he's good or bad at the moment.
     
  4. ChambersWI

    ChambersWI Member+

    Nov 10, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
    From watching Venezia last year Tessman physically looked up for Serie A but looked very naive tactically.

    This year has been a bit of a disaster so far for venezia but from what it sounds like he's been up and down.
     
  5. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Tessmann has only played 328 out of a possible 810 minutes for Venezia so far. He hasn't been injured.
     
  6. HScoach13

    HScoach13 Member+

    Nov 30, 2016
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Kellman has three goals and two assists for Leyton Orient, that's not too shabby.
     
  7. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    yeah, but it’s League Two in the 4th tier. It’s a second loan from QPR because League One didn’t work out. He’s right back where he was with Southend.

    You really can’t count that as a W
     
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  8. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    So did this guy retire? What's up with him?
     
  9. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He's not registered for the Europa League.

    He's not good enough to be part of their matchday squad for Greek Super League games (only 5 non-EU players can dress for a Greek Super League game and Olympiacos has 8 or 9 other non-EU players).

    That is what is up with him. No conspiracies. It's rather simple.
     
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  10. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  11. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    What a waste of talent. Konrad has one of the best ball control skills in the pool. He must be totally arse in the playing-with-others part of the game. Or a tactical dunce. Shame.
     
  12. ChambersWI

    ChambersWI Member+

    Nov 10, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan


    Valladolid again interested in Konrad so are Burnley, Sampdoria, Sassoulo, Beskitas, and Anderlecht.

    The Olmpiakos move was always weird to me. Seemed too rushed to me.

    Talent is there for Konrad. Clearly needs to work on practice habits and work on his end product, but he and his agent also have to be smarter about where he goes
     
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  13. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Can we get a scouting report on these prospective suitors, regarding local nightlife?
     
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  14. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Likely to go on loan elsewhere:

    Matteo Moretto
    @MatteMoretto

    Konrad de la Fuente will leave Olympiacos in January. He will not return to Marseille, he will continue on loan to another team. News told on Twitch
    @relevo
     
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  15. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Anderlecht would be a good place for him to end up. Their season has started out slow form them, he could help the club. Plus the league is a solid one.
     
  16. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    Anderlecht would be good for him. The question is whether he'd be good for Anderlecht.

    If he can't get onto the bench at Olympiacos, who play in a much weaker league, there's not much reason to think that he would
     
  17. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree to your point. The top of the Belgian league is pretty solid. They go about 8 teams deep that could play in Europe. The big question is why was he not even making the bench in Greece. Lots of talent ...
     
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  18. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Let me add one more thing, if he did end up at Anderlecht, the U23 squad is in the 2nd Division, Challenger League. He could play there to get back into shape and potentially work his way into the first team.
     
  19. ChambersWI

    ChambersWI Member+

    Nov 10, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Olympiacos has been a bit of a disaster behind the scenes. Seems like Marcello is about to terminate his contract too
     
  20. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Spain is a possible loan destination:


    @LaMinuteOM_

    (l'équipe)

    On the departure side, OM, who say they are not looking for central defenders and sweep away rumors of a sale of Balerdi, the club would like to find a loan in L1 for Isaak Touré. And another abroad, possibly in Spain, for Konrad de la Fuente.

    #TeamOM #MercatOM
     
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  21. comoesa

    comoesa Member+

    Aug 13, 2010
    Christen Press's armpit
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    His time at OM started so well too. The talent is there. Just needs to get professionalism right and probably some luck with the next move.
     
  22. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Update:

    Peuple Olympien
    @peupleolympien

    The #OM wants to find an alternative for Konrad de La Fuente if there is no offer for him.

    He will finish his season in Greece if no club positions itself on him.

    Foot Mercato | #TeamOM #MercatOM
     
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  23. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Interest from AZ:

    Luca Bendoni
    @LucaBendoni

    Excl: AZ Alkmaar are interested in Konrad De La Fuente from Olympique de Marseille. It's a possible solution to keep an eye on. #TeamOM #AZAlkmaar
     
  24. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    That would be interesting. And JAZ play in the eereste too, so he'd potentially have more professional PT options. What little I've seen of they guy - mostly from his start at OM - he looked like he could handle himself at a decent pro level. It's kinda perplexing. I blame his parents for giving him a name out a Harlequin bodice ripper. (not that I know anything about harlequin bodice rippers, but if I did, I'd expect a strapping shirtless guy named Konrad climbing off his polo pony in Andorra in front of the family's beloved but financially ruinous vineyard... but I digress.)
     
  25. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #2925 bshredder, Jan 24, 2023
    Last edited: Jan 24, 2023
    Part of Konrad's many problem's in Greece is that he doesn't have an EU passport and there is a limit to how many non-EU players can suit up in a game in Greece.

    Now, in the Eredivisie you have the high minimum salary for non-EU players. Why would AZ pay that? They are having a great season (sitting second in the table, just two points off the lead).

    I don't have any inside information here. But just ask yourself, does a club surging in the Eredivisie title race need to take a risk on a kid who 1) had a miserable 2022, 2) has never really proven himself anywhere, 3) had his professionalism questioned at Marseille, 4) was then shipped to Olympiacos where he didn't play or even make matchday squads, 5) and would be really expensive because he is a non-EU?

    It just seems hard to believe with all of that information that an overachieving club like AZ would say - "That's our guy!"

    EDIT: The only way it works is if Marseille agrees to subsidize all or most of his salary either after a transfer, or a loan with an option to buy. Schalke did that for Haji Wright so he could go to VVV, so there is precedent. But even then, AZ would have other concerns.
     

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