Let’s talk about The European Super League

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  1. juveeer

    juveeer Member+

    Aug 3, 2006
    Do you not understand monopolistic practices? This is the same strategery from UEFA and FIFA in a another situation. They think Euro wide rules don't apply to them and are now telling governments what they can and cannot do.

    Looks like the government blinked...this time.
     
  2. Sorry dude, this has nothing to do with monopolistic practices. There's no way you can have monopolistic practices versus a government.
    This is about who runs the sport itself, the Italian association or the government.
     
  3. juveeer

    juveeer Member+

    Aug 3, 2006
    Wrong. And I am not a "dude".
     
  4. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

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    The league, not the sport.
     
  5. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

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    I agree with this part

    "There are no more footballing schools, and everyone plays like Pep [Guardiola] now. It’s all the same. Nowadays, they don’t evaluate centre-backs for their defending but for how they build up. The game still needs real defenders."

    There are footballing schools but every coach is taught to coach like Pep Guardiola, whether it's Notts County, NYC FC, England or the US NT under GB.
     
  6. juveeer

    juveeer Member+

    Aug 3, 2006
    How about this part?

    "...A former UEFA President, Platini, predicted that the Super League project would be realised sooner or later.

    “It will happen one day, but I don’t know if it will take five or 20 years,” he said.

    All the clubs had agreed, do you remember it? The Court said that the UEFA monopoly is over. It all started with the Bosman. I don’t like it, but we have it.”

    Platini is not even a fan of the new Champions League.

    “The version with 32 clubs and groups was better, but Ceferin surrendered to the clubs......”
     
  7. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

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    I think it will happen but not with all of the big 12 clubs.
     
  8. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

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  9. Ahmadi8

    Ahmadi8 Member+

    Apr 14, 2005
    Bahrain
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    While clubs can appeal UEFA or FIFA rejection for a new competition to go ahead.

    This is a win for the clubs no matter how those corrupt dicks wish to spin it.
     
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  10. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

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    Whoever won the case, the fact is the decision endorsed UEFA's role as the regulator of European football and that any new and alternative competitions must be authorised by UEFA.

    Of course, to date no application has been made to UEFA to sanction a new competition, whatever anyone says.
     
  11. Quite right.
    I don't think anybody in his right mind wants to lose money by setting up a superleague.
    Given how the new CL format works, a format I don't like by the way, it's impossible to start an esl that makes money.
     
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  12. juveeer

    juveeer Member+

    Aug 3, 2006

    Why?
     
  13. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

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    It did? Where?
     
  14. In the verdict it is stated that UEFA has to use transparent rules for competitions to be recognized.
    So if a competition doesnot need UEFA's permission, UEFA obviously doesnot need transparent rules.
     
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  15. juveeer

    juveeer Member+

    Aug 3, 2006
    Twilight zone stuff.
     
  16. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

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    So UEFA needs to create a framework that would allow outside organizations to run competitions without the threat of sanctions.

    Sounds like an L to me.

    Of course UEFA is going to dither and delay and it'll probably end up back in court in 5 years time.
     
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  17. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

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  18. That would only be the case if someone in reality would want to start a CL threatening competition.
    And only if that is a real case, with by investors backed completely financed competition.
    As is the case of the Madrid court, they arenot going to make verdicts on assumptions/imaginary competitions.
    So how high do you think the chance is to see a full fledged and financed competition with clubs attached the next 5 years?
     
  19. Paul Berry

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  20. Explain what you see as adverse to the ruling.
     
  21. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

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    To summarize "give us 12 months notice and the UEFA executive committee will eventually decide if you can have your little competition".
     
  22. juveeer

    juveeer Member+

    Aug 3, 2006
    For someone who seems to think this is impossible, you certainly seem very concerned about this.

    Like it or not it is coming in some form. It makes too much economic sense not to.
     
  23. Dunno from what part of my posts you deduce that conclusion.

    Well, that's the problem for that esl, in it's current CL format it is there now, and indeed I don't like it.
    So you actually right, it is coming in some form..the CL 2024-2025 format.
     
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