Let’s talk about The European Super League

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  1. juveeer

    juveeer Member+

    Aug 3, 2006




    Hmmmm....perhaps now we know why the Saudis are spending all that money trying to create home grown super clubs.
     
  2. juveeer

    juveeer Member+

    Aug 3, 2006
    FFP was never about controlling costs. It was about cementing the biggest clubs with the most revenue in place at the head of the table and preventing the rise of another Man City/Chelsea/PSG. Of course it failed there too.
     
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  3. Dante

    Dante Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is a Superr League created by UEFA, with FIFA's approval, so that makes it WORSE than bankers and for-profit owners because the money generated will still go to UEFA with the clubs receiving less than they would have in a Super League.

    They copied the model of the Super League, after they introduced their tweaks to it. Fans won't oppose this because they're too dumb to realize it's the same thing, but just that UEFA is running it and keeping most of the profits.

    As for Italian clubs competing with top EPL teams, that's because it's self-inflicted. Serie A has had a great product on the field for a long time, they just have zero clue how to modernize their marketing,,, or their stadiums.
     
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  4. Jeremy Goodwin

    Jeremy Goodwin Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Feb 16, 1999
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If you believe that the banks are going to retain less than 10% of the Super League revenue for themselves (including both their profit and the management expenses/fees), I have some bridges to sell you, along with some beautiful oceanfront property in Florida.
     
  5. AGomes

    AGomes Member

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    EPL also more popular because English is more widely spoken. Marketing as well, of course.
     
  6. Hexa

    Hexa Member+

    May 21, 2010
    Club:
    Vasco da Gama Rio Janeiro
    FIFA and UEFA's approval of anything related to football is what legitimizes it. If there wasn't FIFA and the regional confederations you would need to create them. Otherwise, you would end up with the American sports model, which consists of for-profit franchises developed for entertainment. While we need FIFA and the confederations to validate cups, leagues, etc., it doesn't mean these not-for-profit institutions are perfect or don't need improvement.

    UEFA realizing that the Super League model was valid and addressed a modern-day problem of uneven finances is actually UEFA doing their job and not having a big ego by dismissing with prejudice a good idea. They will create an inclusive league with proper promotion and relegation, and it will be a success.

    As you pointed out, the problems of Italian clubs/league are self-inflicted. Neither UEFA nor FIFA caused this in the first place.
     
  7. Dante

    Dante Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    if you believe UEFA will retain less than 10% of the Super League revenue then I’ve got a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn.
     
  8. Hexa

    Hexa Member+

    May 21, 2010
    Club:
    Vasco da Gama Rio Janeiro
    It might be because you are American and 10% to bankers is equal to 10% to UEFA in your view. But bankers are in it for the profit while UEFA is a not-for-profit entity with a mandate to organize and improve the game in Europe. UEFA, the entity is good and has a good mandate, if there is a problem, it lies with the current administration which can and should be replaced.

    I have no problem with federation taking a cut if they are properly run and investing in the game. I do have problem with franchise sports model.
     
  9. Jeremy Goodwin

    Jeremy Goodwin Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Feb 16, 1999
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    3.5billion EUR revenue for club competitions, 2b for CL prize money (group stage forward), 500m for Europa, 200m for conference, 8m for super cup, another 350m for solidarity payments and payments to CL qualifiers who don't progress and prize money for the Women's CL.

    323m for hosting expenses (this one you can certainly choose not to believe), and 180m to UEFA (5%).

    Are the banks/Saudi permanent investment fund going to take less than 500m a year? I say to thee nay. And that's assuming they can get equivalent TV deals (you're going to cut down the number of teams and the number of games). If they're floating prize money while they wait for a gigantic TV deal like LIV Golf, it'll die in a ball of fire.
     
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