Les Bleues - France WNT

Discussion in 'Women's International' started by Gromit06, Jul 30, 2013.

  1. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    I talked to a journo who was covering her time at Clermont FC in the men's game. He said she took so much sexist shit from the press and the football world who did not want to accept a woman coaching in the men's game that it changed her and she became very much the way she is now.

    And from my time around the NT as a fan, from 2010 to 2013, she was different. I had conversations with her seating next to her on the team bus, she was not like that.
     
  2. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    France to play their WWC qualifier in September in Tallin,Estonia followed by a home game at Sedan. Capacity is just above 24k, so will probably be half to 2/3 full.

    The Euros quarter-final will be played on Saturday with everybody available so far except Katoto who has gone home following her injury.
     
  3. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    So Diacre with her madness in the method managed to do what many France coaches have tried for 10 years now. Beat the quarter-final curse. It means her job is safe now and she will carry on until the World Cup 2023.

    It is quite obvious that her management style in the 2017-19 years was too hard on the players and it failed. I was expecting her to go after the tournament, but the FFF president has backed her up against the players to the extreme.

    It has allowed her to transition a new generation of players who have won trophies at u17 and u19 level and do not bear the scars of the previous failures.

    Again, she did not go the right way to remove the older players by clashing with them instead of telling them thank you for your services but good-bye.

    I am sure we won't win the Euros, but we should have a good go at the world cup trophy in 2023 with the new generation.
     
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  4. Bonnie Lass

    Bonnie Lass Moderator
    Staff Member

    Lyon
    Norway
    Oct 20, 2000
    Up top
    Club:
    Olympique Lyonnais
    Has it been reported anywhere how much Diacre's salary is? Ballpark, rumor or otherwise.
     
  5. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    I will try to find out, the only reported thing was the win bonus for the Euros.

    Players wages per month reported in the press

    • Marie-Antoinette Katoto (PSG) : 50 000 euros
    • Kadidiatou Diani (PSG) : 37 000 euros
    • Wendie Renard (OL) : 37 000 euros
    • Delphine Cascarino (OL) : 30 000 euros
    • Griedge Mbock (OL) : 28 000 euros
    • Grace Geyoro (PSG) : 26 000 euros
    • Sakina Karchaoui (PSG) : 25 000 euros
     
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  6. Bonnie Lass

    Bonnie Lass Moderator
    Staff Member

    Lyon
    Norway
    Oct 20, 2000
    Up top
    Club:
    Olympique Lyonnais
    Thanks! I did some nosing around last night and couldn't find anything. I've been compiling top women's coaches salaries to see how everyone in the top 15 stacked up, as well as some top US teams. Most of them have been fairly secretive.
     
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  7. Klingo3034

    Klingo3034 Member+

    Dallas FC
    United States
    Oct 11, 2019
    Not surprise it’s secretive, that’s a lot of money at 25k Euros per month.
     
  8. thedexeter

    thedexeter Member

    Washington Spirit
    United States
    Jul 6, 2015
    Does Diacre get a pass for reaching a Semi-Final down her star striker? If so, I'm scared for France in 2023.
     
  9. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I don't know any insider news, but on the basis of what we've seen at the Euro, I guess she should reatain her place: compared to other clueless-looking coaches she had a clear plan and a more than decent execution. The way she changed the team in the 2nd Half of the semifinal vs Germany was sound and it looked effective for a long stint of that half (although, in the end it appeared it wasn't good enough).

    I mean, she reached the semifinal of a big tournament, that's more than any of her predecessors managed to do since WWC 2011/Olympics 2012: seems quite difficult to discuss her now.
     
  10. Thomsen

    Thomsen Member+

    Aug 6, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Lmao the fact that Henry is not in this squad is reason enough to question Diacre as a coach
     
  11. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    And yet Diacre wasn't the only French NT coach in history to decide to ban Henry: maybe it's not just on the coaches. If a player appears for any reason being disruptive to a group, it can be the correct choice not to call her, as strong a player as she is.
     
  12. Bauser

    Bauser Member+

    Dec 23, 2000
    Norway
    Club:
    Fredrikstad FK
    May be Henry is a classic L'enfant terrible. :coffee:
     
  13. L'orange

    L'orange Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jul 20, 2017
    I've never perceived Henry as any kind of a boat-rocker/trouble-maker. I guess she's clashed with Diacre--as several others have--and almost everyone agrees that Diacre is weird and antagonistic. If you saw the wonder goal Henry struck in the CL final, you'd wonder, like I did, why she wasn't on this France squad.
     
  14. Smallchief

    Smallchief Member+

    Oct 27, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    I don't claim to be an expert on France -- but I think Eugenie Le Sommer was probably the best center forward available for this match and Amadine Henry was probably the best defensive midfielder. They weren't there. Just saying.
     
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  15. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Well, she has strong opinions and that does not always go down well. Also when go to prime-time tv to shoot your manager, you can expect retaliation. Henry was actually right to air her views,a lthough Diacre had already started to implement changes to her management style at the time.

    And I won't go into the personal problems that she created inside the NT that got her kicked out in 2011.

    Regarding the Le Sommer, she was left out because Cascarino, Diani and Baltimore were called up ahead of her as wingers. Bacha did actually play a lot on the left wing, but was expected to be back-up at left-back.
     
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  16. kribi

    kribi Member+

    Lyon
    France
    Jan 21, 2022
    Nat'l Team:
    France
  17. L'orange

    L'orange Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jul 20, 2017

    France--of course--is super-talented, but it is also, IMO, the most under-achieving team in the game and has been for years. Brazil is the other team I'd put in the long-time under-achiever category. I think your only chance is to...hire Wiegman. (!).
     
  18. 59Amerinorsk

    59Amerinorsk Member

    Chicago Stars FC
    Norway
    Mar 31, 2017
    Oh, my! Was I impressed with Bacha! Great speedy player!
     
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  19. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Years of infighting between players or players fighting managers means you can't win when certain players won't pass the ball to a certain non club team-mate for example and they won't make the effort for a defensive track-back. All the little things just add up and it makes the difference as well forwards who can't score goals.
     
  20. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    France squad for the next WWC qualifiers is the Euro squad except for two injured players. Renard is out with De Almeida coming in. Katoto is out with an ACL and Bussy is in.

    October will be interesting with Germany and Sweden away friendlies.
     
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  21. L'orange

    L'orange Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jul 20, 2017
    I do not understand why the France Federation continues to stick with a strange NT coach who has not won anything AND who alienates good/very good players who could help the team. It makes no sense.
     
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  22. kribi

    kribi Member+

    Lyon
    France
    Jan 21, 2022
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Noel Le Graet, FFF 's président is stupid, old and senile, and doesn't give a damn about female football. He really just cares money money (and also the men NT). He gave a blank check to Corine Diacre whatever she does, and this coach will never be incriminated whatever happens. Le Graet is supported by a parisian band, FFF vice président Brigitte Henriques, FFF secretary Laura Georges, Aline Riera consultant,etc... who like Corine Diacre and doesn't really like Lyon (and even the concept of female football professionalisation...)

    The champion 's trophee has been played yesterday in a 5000 places stadium, a shame as we can see where the strong english ou spanish female teams play for a cup...

    The last management director for female football, from 2014 to january 2022, Frederique Jossinet, in charge of female football developpment, structuring formation centers, high level D1 clubs, marketing, sponsors, TV broadcasters, etc... (we have still to pay to watch D1 matches...) was a judoka champion (LOL !!!). What she really did during 8 years, i don't know (however i know what JM Aulas did and keeps on doing....)
    She left FFF ans is now vice président at UEFA female football commission. Money money money.

    Noel Le Graet and his entourage is enough stupid having accepted that the french team had 2 less rest days than their opponent during the last euro. I suppose that UEFA makes some propositions which can be discussed...
    Enough stupid not trying to avoid to play in the same board than USA last world cup, organized in France. Canada did better in 2015...

    I can a little worry for french female football when JM Aulas will stop his activity.
     
  23. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Estonia away, squad rotation as it was a weak opponent



    And indeed an easy win with two pens and two red cards for Estonia



    Greece at home next, boring again. October with Germany and Sweden away will be more interesting.
     
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  24. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Horrible knee injury for Griedge M'Bock-Bathy in the routine 5-1 win against Greece.



    Lyon will now scramble to buy a center-back before the transfer deadline in 13 days.
     
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  25. Bauser

    Bauser Member+

    Dec 23, 2000
    Norway
    Club:
    Fredrikstad FK
    Ouch. Again? Wasn't she out for a year recently?
     
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