I was actually in Guadalajara last time for the game against Atlas and it's kind of funny to see how some of the comments here reflect the sentiment there. Most of the people that I had the chance to talk to in Guadalajara, and some of the comments I've seen on Mexican internet forums really mirror this conversation so far. Legion (MX) tries so hard to be bad ass and mimic what Argentine barras do that they often start shit just for the sake of it. The overall consensus seems to be that while Legion's contributions are appreciated and very much enjoyable, the bullshit that they generate is often not worth the hassle. After that game (a victory for Guadalajara) a group of Atlas kids were shot a few blocks from the stadium. Also, while the Columbus debacle is fresh, if somebody translated Chivas' chants for MLS I think there'd be a serious issue. The amount of racist / homophobic content in Legion's chants is troubling.