Legion...

Discussion in 'Chivas USA Supporters Clubs' started by oddlou, Jun 1, 2008.

  1. oddlou

    oddlou Member

    May 12, 2008
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Club Tijuana
    :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::


    The Legion is becoming a joke:

    http://www.insidesocal.com/soccer/2008/05/chivas-usa-postgame-3.html

    "By the way, the soap opera of Legion 1908 continues.

    After boycotting the last two Chivas USA home games in protest because a member of their group was banned from the stadium for fighting with a member of the Ultras (another Chivas USA fan group), Legion 1908 returned. Except they decided to do a tour of the stadium, yell at the Ultras en masse, and when one of their members climbed atop a railing and ignored a security guard's demand to get down the fan was tossed from the stadium.

    Expressing their solidarity (again) Legion 1908 walked out too.

    So they missed the team they allegedly support getting a share of the Western Conference lead."

    Get over yourselves. You're not more important than the team. Grow up, cut the stupid kid shit out. You guys are great for the atmosphere and filling that section, but are seriously embarrassing yourselves.
     
  2. TheUrbanSombrero

    TheUrbanSombrero New Member

    Mar 31, 2008
    Basin City
    Why the ******** are they fighting with the Ultras? this shit makes no sense. :mad:

    Getting in a fight with people that support the same team as you sure seems like a way to get people to come to the game, eh, FRONT OFFICE!!!!? oh im itching to go now :rolleyes:

    they shouldnt be fighting in the first damn place. everyone needs to get off their goddamn high horse and grow the ******** up. :mad:

    im actually more motivated to go to a game now because i know i wont have to be near such stupidity because they wont be there.

    what the hell? (Scratches head)
     
  3. USvsIRELAND

    USvsIRELAND Member+

    Jul 19, 2004
    ATL
    Are the Legion mostly ChivasGuad supporters?
     
  4. EastLAChiva

    EastLAChiva Member

    Jun 26, 2007
    Section 138
    Club:
    CD Chivas USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Si.
     
  5. ZaZaZa

    ZaZaZa New Member

    Nov 23, 2004
    Carson
    I hope whatever the problem gets resolved, The Legion is missed but the team always comes first and by walking out they sent the wrong message
     
  6. Various Styles

    Various Styles Member+

    Mar 1, 2000
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    I like the atmosphere that the Legion brings but they need to realize that they are not in South America, they are not the GSE, and as hard as they try will never have that "Hooligan" culture in the U.S..

     
  7. LArocks1968

    LArocks1968 Member

    May 20, 2007
    West Hollywood
    Club:
    CD Chivas USA
    Agree. Makes no sense at all.
     
  8. elchivamayor

    elchivamayor Member

    Mar 6, 2008
    NORTH HILLS
    Club:
    CD Chivas USA
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    who cares if they are chiva guadalajara fans that is not the point you guys make seem like if been chivas mex fan you dont like cusa and that is so stupid im a chivas mex fan and a cusa fan im part of the ultras and their is a big percent of regular fans that go for chivas mex

    the point here is that i hope they can get thinks straigth and come and support chivas usa like they always dit before, the more of us singing for chivas the best is going to be for the team

    one question so you cant like two teams at the same time
     
  9. Going Mobile

    Going Mobile Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 15, 2004
    Club:
    CD Chivas USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I absolutely agree IF they are fans of both Chivas Guad and Chivas USA. Its seems from what I have read and their actions most are not supporters of Chivas USA. I Have read several time they look at CUSA game as "practice" for the 1 or 2 time Chivas Guad come to Cali.

    Is their passion and support missed, absolutely.
    Is all this BS worth their support ?
     
  10. AndSomeAreAngels

    AndSomeAreAngels Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 7, 2003
    Brokelyn
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    1.) Yes
    2.) Not sure.

    Starting fights with other fans is inexcusable. I'll miss their presence at the games, but this shit needs to stop.
     
  11. dmhines

    dmhines Member

    Dec 28, 2006
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    having encountered this group as a G's supporter, i can answer your question . . . many in la legion treat their funtion as more of a gang social than support group for CUSA.

    sad but true.

    just like other folks that post to this board, i have seen la legion in action. as an individual that has dealt with gangs growing up, the only difference i see between the common LA gang members and the legion is . . . . gang members at least have the guts to fight one on one, face to face.

    are there a minority cool guys in the legion? no doubt. are there a minority of cool members of 18th street, MS, etc . . . no doubt. bottom line, any group that openly supports violence is crap and should be treated accordingly.

    personally i feel that CUSA and your group (the ultras) would be better served to disassociate yourselves with these types. based on what i read here, i think most ultras quietly feel the same way i do.

    as a graduate of USC i would hope that this rivalry would become something like that which exists between SC and UCLA. before the game we party, talk trash, get drunk . . . but all in all it is good fun and quite often the groups intermingle and nothing bad ever happens. trash talking is great and it is what makes a rivalry fun. those that can't respect their rivals have no place in the sporting world.
     
  12. manta1908

    manta1908 New Member

    Jul 18, 2005
    wow!!! now i am speechless........ i have never been called a gang member before.....LOL
    what i read here is nothing but negativity.... bravo!!!
    I am so glad we are in a country that freedom of speech is one of our rights!!!
    it allows me to really understand the level of ignorance we individually have.:rolleyes:
     
  13. AndSomeAreAngels

    AndSomeAreAngels Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 7, 2003
    Brokelyn
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why don't you explain the situation instead of playing pity party?

    I saw the Legion tailgating in the parking lot and I think I remember seeing them inside the game. Then they were gone. Pray tell - what happened? Personally, I've never witnessed any sort of violence on the part of the Legion and they've been nothing but friendly to us whenever we've made our way to their tailgate. I've always disregarded Gals fans' stories about "being attacked" etc by the Legion, but at some point when the stories persist, they start getting traction. That, coupled with the boycotts of late, then LEAVING the game tells me that something is up.

    I'd love to hear the story from the Legion's perspective. I certainly don't want any sort of fan violence, especially between supporters of our own team.

    So...care to explain what happened and why the Legion left the game? I honestly would like to hear another side to the story.
     
  14. tapatio

    tapatio New Member

    Apr 26, 2005
    south los angeles
    i would love to respond to that ! the things that happen at the game are between two people its a personal matter that has been carried on to the stadium with it should have nevered happened but it did . I am speaking as a member of the legion 1908 and not as a gang member like most of you think we are one thing you guys wont under stand is that the legion is not your regular fans or your porra somos hinchas de deportivo guadalajara and no we don't need to be in argentina to be a hincha we support chivas usa but we are not the official supporters group of them and will never be the things between the ultras and legion are personal that needed to be taken care of chivas usa front offices tried to to fix it but just made it worst and for the most part security has made harder on us just to be there the legion has been there since day one . we walked out because security kick out a member for no reason just because we were singing & chanting that's why we all walked out in solidarity
     
  15. manta1908

    manta1908 New Member

    Jul 18, 2005
    there is no pity party here.. just the way i see it. my opinion just like you have yours.
    i just get tired of all the negative comments regarding the legion.
    I am a legionaria. will be until the day I die.
    I have chivas in my blood and the colors in my heart!
     
  16. oddlou

    oddlou Member

    May 12, 2008
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Club Tijuana

    I started this thread and never referred to anyone as a gang member. I just said your actions are child-like and embarrassing. I saw you guys walking around the stadium and I saw when you stopped and had your little showing at the Ultras. It was whack and idiotic. I also saw that security had to make you guys step back from that area and I saw where one or multiple of your members ignored the security guard.

    I LOVE having you guys at the games, making a ruckus and bettering the atmosphere. One of the first things that drew me to want to keep going back to Chivas games was the Legion and what it brought to the atmosphere. I miss the Legion at the games and was pretty excited when I saw your section ready to go on Saturday. It was really disappointing when I saw the exhibition of idiocy aimed at the Ultras and your subsequent walk-out.

    You guys aren't anyone's victims. But you're acting like you are w/all your melodrama. If there is an issue between two grown ass men, let it go. Move on. Be adults about it. If one of your members acts like an asshole and gets kicked out, tell him to stop acting like an asshole, don't encourage it by showing solidarity with the idiocy.
     
  17. El Assesino

    El Assesino New Member

    Oct 21, 2006
    UNION Ul7RAS
    If its a personal problem between 2 or 3 certain individuals and not Ultras vs Legion, why come to our side of the stadium just to sing us that song?
     
  18. LArocks1968

    LArocks1968 Member

    May 20, 2007
    West Hollywood
    Club:
    CD Chivas USA
    Damm...this reminds me of my college years when Latino student organizations just fought with each other instead of working together in support of the common cause. Must be in our blood....pride, machismo, alcohol or what ever it is.....we are always fighting. Dodger Stadium, HDC, college parties or quinceaneras......you name the venue and there is always trouble involving our raza.
     
  19. EastLAChiva

    EastLAChiva Member

    Jun 26, 2007
    Section 138
    Club:
    CD Chivas USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Way to generalize!

    I think I'll pick a fight with myself, just for practice.:cool:
     
  20. dmhines

    dmhines Member

    Dec 28, 2006
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    legion never starts fights? please explain what occurred at the G's/CUSA game september of last year. hell i suppose anyone could get documented proof of what transpired because the LA sherrif's dept was involved, but i suppose those in denial would still not believe.

    and just to correct the misstaments, i never said legion is a gang, i said they behave like one. please note the difference and if you need further clarity, please get a better education.

    i am not one to lie or blow things out of proportion . . . think about it, if la legion is willing to fight with fellow CUSA supporters, what do you think they do to non CUSA supporters? and please spare me "you don't understand the mexican fan" crap. i am a dual citizen of mexico and the US, attend games (FMF) in mexico and the US. and in case you don't see my avitar, i am a strong FMF supporter. no matter what la legion wants you to believe, they are not representative of the common chivas fan (at least not in my family, and belive me my family is loaded with chivas supporters) not the common FMF fan.

    period.
     
  21. elchivamayor

    elchivamayor Member

    Mar 6, 2008
    NORTH HILLS
    Club:
    CD Chivas USA
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    first of all by comparing someone with a gang member to me is like if your are calling him a gang member you dont know shit about gangs bro you mention that at least gangs figth one against one jajajaja thats really stupid because they always jump you not onene on one i know because it has happend to me

    im a ultra and i want to say that i dont have nothing against legion and i wish we could fixed this problem if this is something against one of are members lets talk about it and stop the ostigation we both need to concetrade in supporting are team chivs usa they need both of us i know guys from legion and im pretty sure that we can work things out

    one more thing for the gaylaxy fan ,you one to make it seem like if the supporter groups from gaylaxy dont do nothing you know they are f{{{{ racist in particular the quietsquad so please dont give us your crap

    arriba las chivas topus
     
  22. chimultrufio

    chimultrufio New Member

    Sep 2, 2007
    Los Angeles
    i agree that people in some social movements who pertain to the same cause do fight and share differences..but u are straight out generalizing an entire people here......:(
     
  23. chimultrufio

    chimultrufio New Member

    Sep 2, 2007
    Los Angeles
    sorry comrades but i just had to say something here..lol
    where you at the last chivas usa game with the legion? if you were then you most likely took part in the chanting of "no se escucha nada esa banda..etc.." at the direction of the union ultras..i was right next to you guys when that one guy was asked to get off the railing by security..he ignored them and maybe thats why he got kicked out..i would like to see the legion and our group get along..its true games are more exciting when groups like yours are there..so plz squash whatever it is makes you come to the south end of the stadium and chant at us..it serves no purpose to do so...

    dale chivas and chivas usa! :D
     
  24. chimultrufio

    chimultrufio New Member

    Sep 2, 2007
    Los Angeles
    nobody here is questioning your chiva pride..just questioning why you would march and chant negative things to a fellow cdcusa supporter group..i just dont get it:confused:
     
  25. dmhines

    dmhines Member

    Dec 28, 2006
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    i am not going to sit here and vet myself because dealing with kids like you is not worthwhile, but i will say this . . . maybe things have changed but where i grew up in van nuys only punks needed numbers to fight and real men weren't afraid to go one on one. that being said, i am a member of the riot squad, and i was there that night and nothing was done to provoke a fight. unless you were there don't comment. and if you were, you would know who i was because i was one of 5 - 10 LARS guys that held off about 40 - 50 legion punks.

    please give me one example of when LARS people were racist? to further show you are talking out of your ass, you realize that probably 1/3 of our memeber are latino? hell i am a mexican citizen with pocho children . . . I AM RACIST? against who?

    do your homework before you talk, and only talk about what you know first hand.
     

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