Legal Free Kick?

Discussion in 'Referee' started by elessar78, Aug 16, 2012.

  1. elessar78

    elessar78 Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 12, 2010
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
  2. Eastshire

    Eastshire Member+

    Apr 13, 2012
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I would think that was very difficult to do with only one touch.
     
  3. Cliveworshipper

    Cliveworshipper Member+

    Dec 3, 2006

    Do you see two touches?
     
  4. DudsBro

    DudsBro Member

    Jan 12, 2010
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Legal. Difficult doesn't mean impossible.
     
  5. LongDuckDong

    LongDuckDong Member+

    Jan 26, 2011
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Exactly. I can do that with one touch. I can also cradle the ball without rolling it backwards. Its certainly not easy to learn, but its possible.
     
  6. Eastshire

    Eastshire Member+

    Apr 13, 2012
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Not from the distance the camera was from the action. I'm not saying it's automatically illegal; I'm saying it will not often be done legally. If he gets it off the ground without it losing contact with his foot, it should stay there the rest of the way.
     
  7. oldreferee

    oldreferee Member

    May 16, 2011
    Tampa
    I am of the opinion that this move has been declared legal.

    But the fact that it was accomplished with "one touch" (meaning never breaking contact from beginning to end) is not the standard. If it were, then the "kicker" could cradle the ball and run with it (ok, hop around). Sure, 2 touches is illegal, but not all 1 touch moves are legal.

    So, though I agree this has been declared legal, for the life of me, I cannot figure out why (other than it's really cool).
     
  8. Cliveworshipper

    Cliveworshipper Member+

    Dec 3, 2006

    Can you point to a one touch move actually being declared illegal?

    I don't mean your never-been-done hypothetical. I mean a real move.

    A move being really cool doesn't exclude it from the game. We wouldn't have the Chilena if it did.
     
  9. oldreferee

    oldreferee Member

    May 16, 2011
    Tampa
    How 'bout the tap on the top of the ball (to count for the 1st touch of an IDFK)? That's not a "kick", right?

    My only point is that I don't think you can look at this and DEDUCE from the lotg that it's a kick. You have to be told it's a kick (and not a drag or a cradle or whatever).
     
    nsa repped this.
  10. Cliveworshipper

    Cliveworshipper Member+

    Dec 3, 2006

    What you describe doesn't meet the FIFA requirement of "kicked and is moved"
    This does, according to the FIFA instructions and guidelines.


    You don't have to deduce it. All you have to do is follow the FIFA instructions and guidelines to referees, which specifically allow the move.


    http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/worldfootball/clubfootball/01/37/04/29/interpretation_law13_en.pdf

     
    Sachsen, nsa and oldreferee repped this.
  11. oldreferee

    oldreferee Member

    May 16, 2011
    Tampa
    See, I KNEW someone told me it was legal :ROFLMAO:
    Thanks for the reference. I had forgotten that one.
     
  12. Cliveworshipper

    Cliveworshipper Member+

    Dec 3, 2006

    My only question is if Cuatemoc Blanco ever took a free kick with his "bunny hop"
     
  13. LongDuckDong

    LongDuckDong Member+

    Jan 26, 2011
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes, but as soon as the player makes contact with the ball it's in play. He could cradle it all he wants, but the other team can tackle it away from him.
     
  14. Gary V

    Gary V Member+

    Feb 4, 2003
    SE Mich.
    Or he could be deemed to be playing in a dangerous manner, putting himself in a position that the other team can't play the ball because they are concerned with hurting him.
     
  15. Cliveworshipper

    Cliveworshipper Member+

    Dec 3, 2006

    That's a stretch. It is just as possible that anyone challenging the player is playing in a dangerous manner.

    In the case of the play in question, I can't conceive of a case where the ref would make that decision.
     
  16. gosellit

    gosellit BigSoccer Supporter

    May 10, 2005
    There is a sayin' we have in the South, "quick tryin' to pick the fly crap out of the pepper."
    FIFA has deemed this particular move to be a legal kick. Just like a little fly crap in the pepper, you gotta live with it. :D
     

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