Learning Moves

Discussion in 'Soccer Boots' started by ElMonoLoco, May 9, 2003.

  1. ElMonoLoco

    ElMonoLoco New Member

    May 9, 2003
    Albama, USA
    Now that i've gotten good at the basic moves (maradonna spinny thing, scissors, double scissors,cyruff etc.) what are some other moves i can start doing to blow my defenders away? I'm an aspiring 14 year old from America in 8th grade. I played up for My highschool this year and was pretty much the best player on the team and better than most of our opponents. I Am trying my hardest to get better and trying to reach my goal in life, getting paid to do what i love. I dont necessarily want a 10 millin dollar contract. I wouldnt rerally care if i got paid the same as a school teacher. But anyway can someone explain some new moves to me and enclose links to any (small) vids if you can. (sorry for all the background info i put in since im new i thought you all might want to know a little about me)
    any help would be appreciated. (any help on shooting would be helpful too, heck, anything you think i should need to know go ahead and throw in)
     
  2. Elninho

    Elninho Member+

    Sacramento Republic FC
    United States
    Oct 30, 2000
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No move's going to beat defenders consistently. You've probably already got most of the moves that are used in games. It's more important to know when to use them and when not to use them. Know not just how to pull off a move, but what it's good for, and keep in mind that your purpose is not necessarily to embarrass the defender but simply to make the ball go where you want it to go. Quite often a simple cut will do just as well as a Cruyff, and no matter how much you've practiced you're more likely to screw up the Cruyff than the regular cut.
     
  3. hambone

    hambone New Member

    Apr 23, 2002
    how is it even possible to screw up a cryuff turn? stick out your foot and pull ball back...wow hard. You can't just learn moves the idea is to learn control then you can just dribble around like it is american football except they're not allowed to grab you. If you want to get really good I suggest practising control at speed and quick 1 touch shooting, passing and 2 touch control and volley. I believe these are the hardest skills and the most useful ones by far. No matter how well you can dribble there is gonna be a guy that is faster than you who will be able to check you. If you can get the ball and put it in the net before anyone has a chance to do anything, then it is impossible to stop you. Learn to do a deak right off the first touch. For example learn a matthews by accepting a hard pass for your inside touch then burning the guy next move with your outside touch and shooting on goal or passing right away. This is the way the best skill goals are scored.
     
  4. Elninho

    Elninho Member+

    Sacramento Republic FC
    United States
    Oct 30, 2000
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Isn't the Cruyff the behind-the-foot pull? Or am I just mistaken on nomenclature? An outside-of-foot cut is just as effective in most situations and much easier. And I've even seen professionals screw up stepovers, it happens once in a while. What I was saying was keep it simple and efficient. How good you look while doing it doesn't matter as long as the ball goes where you want it to go, the way you want it to get there. The whole point of all of the moves that you've learned is either change of direction or change of pace.

    Anyway, if you're trying to burn a defender, it starts before you receive the ball. If you can control the ball and accelerate in the same moment that the ball gets to you, then you can often beat the defender on your first touch.

    Another tip: watch what the defender's doing - most defenders even at college level are quite easy to read and can be beaten without anything more than simple inside-foot and outside-foot cuts.
     
  5. Tmagic77

    Tmagic77 Member+

    Feb 10, 2003
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Re: Re: Learning Moves

    Unless I've always been told the wrong thing a Cruyff is cutting the ball back behind you with the inside of your foot.
     
  6. hambone

    hambone New Member

    Apr 23, 2002
    T magic has got the cryuff from what i know. Of course a simple cut can often do as well as a cryuff but when the defender is cheating to block your cross or has a little bit better position the cryuff is nice in the corner to get that cross over.

    Watching the defender is all important I wholly agree. Think about it if you are defending you watch what the offender is doing why would you not watch what the defender is doing if you are on offense then. When you keep your head up and dribble and watch the defender you have a way better chance of beating him. For example if you are gonna do matthews(inside outside) watch the defender as you make the first touch you have to watch him, you don't move it outside until he steps towards the way that you are going. If you're not watching your just guessing so you will be beat pretty much always.

    Do the moves with your eyes shut, feel the ball that is the best way to practise someone on here gave me the idea, blindfolded. When you open your eyes again you can look up so well because all you need is just that little bit of peripheral vision to notice the ball. It seems impossible to do the moves blindfolded but you start to feel the ball and most of all when you take off the blindfold or open your eyes you feel that it is simple to dribble with your head up and watch the guy. If you see him make a bad step or early tackle, cut and burn him.
     
  7. ElMonoLoco

    ElMonoLoco New Member

    May 9, 2003
    Albama, USA
    thank you everyone for your help. I'm gonna start doing that blindfolded stuff. I had never thought of that before. ( BTW the thought the cyruff involved hitting the ball slightly back the heel of your foot to change direction) any shooting suggestion now?
     
  8. Toon³

    Toon³ Member

    Dec 27, 2002
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    A cruyff is when you push the ball between your own legs with the inside of you dominate foot (around the big toe area) which places the ball behind you and so allows you to go back on yourself.

    Hit the balls with the laces of your boot for maximum POWER. For placement use the inside of your foot a la Pires and hit it like a strong pass to where u want it to go.
     
  9. giggs88

    giggs88 Member

    May 11, 2003
    Virginia
    the cruyff move would then be more suited for beating a defender to the side of you rather than in front of you,, right?
     
  10. Ictar

    Ictar Member

    Jun 18, 2002
    The Oklahoma Panhandle
    The most important thing about moves is just using them in the right situation. Look why Denilson isn't considered as good as Ronaldo. Denilson gets the ball, puts his head down, and dribbles through as many guys as it takes to...run it out of bounds. Very little production, lots of flash, whereas a guy like Donovan is nowhere near the dribbler Denilson is but produces much better. He knows when to pass and when to take guys on, most of the time.

    There's a move I really like, but I don't know the name. I'm hoping someone can help me out. If you want to go left, use your right foot with this. Last' say you want to go left. Take your right foot and do this all in one motion. Have your defender right in front of you, then roll your right foot over the ball, pushing the ball to the left and at the last second before it gets out your reach and while still in mid-air from popping it right, complete the roll over with your right foot so it's now on your instep. By now your defender is hopefully wrong-footed, so run left with the ball. Wtf is the name of this?
     
  11. dolphinscoach

    dolphinscoach Member

    Apr 17, 2002
    Bellevue, NE
    2 unrelated suggestions:

    1) Watch a lot of soccer and then try the moves that work. Higher quality matches (e.g., CL, EPL, La Liga, etc.) should give you some examples, but even college and good high school players may show you something.

    2) Practice the moves so that they are similar in the buildup. In other words, eliminate the habits that will telegraph what you are going to do. (I found out from a friend that I always stood more upright before one of my moves, so when I played v. him, the move never worked--until I eliminated the tell.)

    2a) Along these same lines, don't always do a move each time you face a similar situation. If a defender knows you are going to try to take him/her off the dribble every time, s/he's tougher to beat. If you mix enough passes in, the defender has a tougher time, and your moves work better.
     
  12. Anarchist

    Anarchist New Member

    Mar 20, 2003
    Stuart, Florida
    You can learn some fun stuff in Nike freestyle commercials... not to practical, but if you can do some of what they do, you can develop good ball control. another tip my uncle told me was to just, no matter where I go in the house, have a tennis ball or a soccer ball or whatever kind of ball at your feet... that way you're constantly practicing ball control. tape soccer games, especially games with players like Denilson and Ronaldo, and watch what they do, when they do it, how they do it, where they do it, and practice it. you'll notice that the two main factors of penetration dribbling are change of speed and change of direction.
     
  13. giggs88

    giggs88 Member

    May 11, 2003
    Virginia
    The first one is what i do, i watch epl and spanish liga games and watch particular players like veron, zidane, ronaldo, and ofcourse giggs. you can learn a lot of skills this way. and beckham for his free kicks.
     
  14. Jacen McCullough

    Nov 23, 1998
    Maryland
    Instead of looking for more moves, just practice your current crop over and over again. You've already got more moves than most people, now you've just got to perfect how you do them. Look at Preki. He made a career out of one move.
     
  15. rymannryan

    rymannryan New Member

    Aug 27, 2002
    N.N., Virginia


    And one foot.
     
  16. CPFitz14

    CPFitz14 New Member

    Oct 10, 2002
    Alright... here's my favorite, that I invented myself. Its a little flashy, but still works pretty darn well. It's sort of hard to explain, but i'll do my best.

    Alright, behold my MS Paint skills.... let me know if you need more instruction. They are from a top view.


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  17. calcioguy9

    calcioguy9 New Member

    Aug 6, 2002
    Wisconsin, USA
    for beating defenders: play A LOT. practice just a few moves, and get damn good at them. if a defender know you have more than one move, theyre going to have to guess. once you have a defender guessing, the game is in your control.

    for shooting: keep in mind you dont necesarily have to shoot. you only have to beat the keeper. sometimes this requires a hard hit laces shot. but most of the time, its just beating the keeper, a nice easy pass. this doesnt even have to be in a corner, it only has to get around the keeper and in the goal.
     
  18. chilistrider

    chilistrider Together We Rise

    May 9, 2002
    Thornton, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not on topic, but...

    Hi, ElMonoLoco. Welcome to BigSoccer. Be sure to check out the Alabama Soccer Thread. There are several of us Bama natives on the boards here, if you can believe it!
     

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