League rankings South America

Discussion in 'CONMEBOL' started by Xavve, Mar 31, 2004.

  1. Xavve

    Xavve New Member

    Mar 30, 2004
    Stockholm
    Well, since I was two years old I've been living in Sweden and it's only thanks to my dad that I still know a little about south american soccer. It's difficult to follow the chilean or argentinian league here :(

    So my question is: which league is the best, second best and third in South America? How is the quality of the other leagues? Money and so on :)

    Regards Xavve from Sweden
     
  2. Various Styles

    Various Styles Member+

    Mar 1, 2000
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    1. Mexican Football League
    2. Argentinean Futbol League
    3. Brazilian Championships
    4. Freddy Adu and MLS
    5. Venezuelan semi pro League
    6. Colombia Campeonato Mustang
    7. Club Cienciano of Peru & Co
    8. Chilean allways on strikes League
    9. Centenario stadium League
    10. Suriname dirt fields & kicking grounds
     
  3. DanRod78

    DanRod78 New Member

    Mar 30, 2003
    Kansas City, KS
    Pay - Mexico is the highest paying one

    Best league:
    - Brazil and Argentina, but I personally think that Argentina's league is the best. I rather watch a crappy game from that league, than a good one from the english league.
    - Mexico
    - The rest, I don't know, I go by how the teams do in Copa Libertadores.
     
  4. Saltenya94

    Saltenya94 Member

    Jul 29, 2003
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    DC United
    Do they have any mexican restaurants in Sweden? If owners love thier futbol odds are they'll have a satalite. That's what I had to resort to here in bizarro-land.

    I buy the cheapest thing on the menu - ask them to put on the TV to Libertadores or Sudamericana on Fox Sports en Espanol. - works like a charm. I don't see leauge games but - I figure by watching Libertadores I see the best of each country and here's what I've learned this year:

    1) Mexican teams can hold thier own
    2) Soccer in Venezuela is getting better in quality
    3) Cienciano made a huge mistake by not playing in Cusco
     
  5. chichi

    chichi Member

    May 21, 1999
    Miami Fl
    Club:
    Ft Lauderdale Strikers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Best league in South America is by far Argentina's

    Then I'd say it's Brazil's and after that it's pretty much down hill.

    I know I'll get critcisms for this but Ecuador's could be ranked 3rd since they have some good players there now (Murillo, Delgado, Higuita, Aguinaga, etc) and teams are competitive in Copa Libertadores. Check out Liga de Quito and Barcelona.

    After Uruguay's then I'd say Colombia.

    My opinion.
     
  6. Deleted USer

    Deleted USer Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    In South America.. not the best clubs but best league ..

    01. Argentina
    02. Brazil
    03. Colombia
    04. Uruguay
    05. Chile
    06. Paraguay
    07. Peru
    08. Ecaudor
    09. Bolivia
    10. Venezuelan
     
  7. DanRod78

    DanRod78 New Member

    Mar 30, 2003
    Kansas City, KS
    I wouldn't put Venezuela in last place:

    1. After 6 years of playing 2 spots with Mexicans in Pre-libertadores Venezuela got 3 direct spots, making the league more competitive. All the teams know that by playing good in the league, they'll go to the one of the best soccer tournaments in the World.
    2. From the 14 players that beat Uruguay, 6 play in the venezuelan league (including the goalie).
    3. In the first round of Copa Libertadores 2004, venezuelan teams have played better than Chilean, Bolivian and Paraguayan teams, when you look at the numbers.

    Tachira tie with River Plate in Venezuela
    Maracaibo tied with Velez in Argentina (a mistake in min.92).
    Maracaibo beat Fenix (Uru) in Uruguay.

    And believe or not, Maracaibo is in 9th place in the Venezuelan (of 10 teams)

    CaracasFC 2-0-3 6pts/15
    Tachira 1-3-0 6pts/12 (1 of the 6 unbeaten teams)
    UAM 1-2-1 5pts/12
     
  8. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    01. Argentina (more entretaining)
    02. Brazil (very large amount of teams and tourneys)
    03. Colombia (average better than the other 7 ligas below)
    04. Uruguay (too small for better rating) + (talent exporters)
    05. Chile (not enouf fans support -only 3teams do better-)
    06. Paraguay (too small of a liga) + (talent producers)
    07. Peru (great fan support, should be 2 notches higher)
    08. Ecuador (Small but getting better)
    09. Bolivia (great fan support)
    10. Venezuelan (ready to move up)
     
  9. Argentine Futbol

    Argentine Futbol Red Card

    Feb 21, 2003
    Old Greenwich, CT
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    1)Argentina ( Most entertaining)
    2)Brazil ( many teams)
    3)Colombia ( Different Champion yearly)
    4)Ecuador ( Barcelona, Emelec, Liga de Quito, El Nacional) Favorable wins against club teams below on this list.
    5)Uruguay ( Two teams Peñarol y nacional)
    6)Paraguay (same as above)
    7)Peru (great skill but few good teams)
    8)Bolivia (?)
    9)Venezuela ( wow getting better)
     
  10. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    so ecuas better that paraguas and urugas?


    top 3: everyone seems to agree.
    bottom: hard for venezuela to get out and pass bolivia or Chile (last post did not EVEN mention them)
     
  11. lfsr1544

    lfsr1544 Member

    May 9, 2001
    Glen Rock, NJ
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    how do you include Mexico? Last time I checked they were a little nort of SOUTH america
     
  12. lfsr1544

    lfsr1544 Member

    May 9, 2001
    Glen Rock, NJ
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    01. Argentina (best organized)
    02. Brazil (sloppy but lots of talent)
    03. Colombia (average better than the other 7 ligas below)
    04. Uruguay (too small for better rating) + (talent exporters)
    05. Chile (a shame about this league. I think they're fans and league can be as exciting as any of the top 4)
    06. Peru(good talent but league is a bit on/off, plus their teams in the last 2-3 libertadores have done miserably)
    07. Paraguay (great fan support, should be 2 notches higher)
    08. Ecuador (VERY small league. They're 'dollarization' is hugely improving their league)
    09. Bolivia (great fan support)
    10. Venezuelan (ready to move up - they need to do something more then just advancing 2 teams to the next round of CL - but they're not too far from the Bolivian league)
     
  13. Juan Luis Guerra

    Juan Luis Guerra Red Card

    Jun 11, 2001
    New York City
    I have to agree with you in this one. I agree with your ranking.

    JLG
     
  14. CerroPorteño

    CerroPorteño New Member

    Mar 30, 2004
    Asunción
    i think pararaguayan teams are higher than the patetic chileans and the uruguay league
     
  15. DanRod78

    DanRod78 New Member

    Mar 30, 2003
    Kansas City, KS
    CL 2004
    Venezuelans vs Argentinians (1-3-0) 7GF/5GA
    Venezuelans vs Uruguayans (2-1-0) 6GF/2GA

    Hey, we haven't lost against them.
    Not bad for "the worst league" in South America.
     
  16. BorrachoNJ

    BorrachoNJ New Member

    Apr 8, 2001
    NEW BRUNSWICK, NJ
    argentinean league is it for me...i have to agree with DanRod. i'd rather see crappy game from argentina than a lot of hyped-up games

    at work, i tell people that the Libertadores and league games are more passionate than Champions League and a good chunk of leagues in Europe...

    and i'd love to smoke what VS has when he put out his list...
    puff, puff, give; don't break the cycle
     
  17. Pibe#10

    Pibe#10 Member

    May 1, 2003
    ArmeniA
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I agree about the intensity being better in S.A. man what boring semis for CL and UEFA cup, two games decided on a PK....the only goal of the game.....
     
  18. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    CONGRATS

    WE WERE ABLE TO DROP YOUR YELLOW CARD!

    stay borracho mate.
     
  19. ferx203

    ferx203 Member

    Aug 18, 2004
    Chile
    The best league depends of many different criteria.

    I think the best leagues are the leagues with better results in the last Copa Libertadores.

    Quarterfinalists 2004
    - Brazil : 3 (Santos, Sao Paulo, Sao Caetano)
    - Colombia : 2 (Cali, Caldas)
    - Argentina : 2 (River, Boca)
    - Venezuela : 1 (Tachira)

    2003
    - Brazil : 2 (Santos, Gremio)
    - Argentina : 2 (River, Boca)
    - Colombia : 2 (Indep.Medellin, America)
    - Mexico : 1 (Cruz Azul)
    - Chile : 1 (Cobreloa)


    a) Brazil & Colombia had 4 different teams in quarterfinals in last 2 years.
    b) Argentina only have River & Boca.
    c) Another countries only have 1 appearance.

    In my opinion, now Brazil & Colombia are the best leagues in South America.
     
  20. minus

    minus Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jul 18, 2004
    Portugal
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    1.Argentina
    2.Colombia
    3.Brazil (Confusing as hell and somewhat not as entertaining as other 2 listed above)
    4.Peru (Alot of support and better than other country listed below)
    6.Ecuador
    6.Paraguay
    7.Uruguay
    8.Toss up between Bolivia and Chile
     
  21. Colombia
    argentina
    ecuador
    brazil
    paragauy
    urugauy
    chile
    Venezuela
    Peru
    Bolivia
     
  22. ecuafutbolfreak

    Jun 3, 2004
    Quito
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    only league i see better than ecua's is argentina, brazil and possibly colombia, but the others don't come close!
    too bad kaviedes had to go, but still, we gave good matches and handed humilating defeats to peru's, chile's and brazil's top teams!
     
  23. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    ok sure :rolleyes:

    im pretty sure colmbia is clearly a better league

    ecuador is even with peru and chile(who has gone down a bit)
     
  24. wow ecaudor is so much better than colombian league

    when was the last time one of there team got to the qaurter finals ?

    pretty much every team in colombia has been to the libertadores and gotten past group stage

    you have america, nacional, deportivo cali, millionarios, junior, santa fe, independiente medellin, tolima, and once caldas not to mention the participation of atletico bucaramanga, tulua, union magdalena, deportes quindio, and ateltico huila
     
  25. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake

    cual es el promedio de asistencia a juegos que no sean en quito o guayaquil?

    ademas uds aun son muy pequenos, en terminos de torneo, como venezuela, solo que mas maduros en temas de futbol, y con un estadio como casa blanca que es de lo mejor de america.

    pero si te sales de guayaquil y Quito....no se puede decir nada bueno, o si?
     

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