Lavolpe on GolTv right now....

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by purojogo, Sep 1, 2005.

  1. purojogo

    purojogo Member

    Sep 23, 2001
    US/Peru home
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Anyone watching GolTv's Super estadio?

    Yesterday we had American Soccer cover the match from the US' pow...Right now, i see Lavolpe being interviewed on GolTV (juggling back and forth between this and Metro SOccer Report-sorry) .. From what i've seen says that "they'll play intelligent soccer.... and perform the way Mexico did at the Confederations Cup, smart technically and tactically (as in vs. Brazil)"

    also mentioned, sort of like Borguetti did before, that "we (US) tends to play a "closed" sort of game...where US pressures in the middle and counter.... taking advantage of our speed.......that if the US played a more open game, more weakness could be exposed by the team... but that we probably would not do that, as they'd score a few"....anyway....i'll get back to it....but people with GolTV can listen to this with the audio translated to English
     
  2. bigtimebuck4

    bigtimebuck4 Member

    Oct 10, 2004
    what a jackass.

    assume for a moment that his premise is correct, that if we played what they consider to be "more wide open" that more of our weeknesses would be exposed. Well, if that is the case, its a good thing we don't play that way you moron. Why in the hell would you use a tactical strategy that doesn't put you in the best position to win? Correct me if im worng, but is the object not to win? Or is it to play "the beautiful game?"
     
  3. aueagle1

    aueagle1 New Member

    Aug 4, 2005
    Washington DC
    The last thing that Bruce cares about is what another coach says. He is not Kevin Keegan, and these mind games are silly. We will play that gives us the best chance to win based on who is available.
     
  4. purojogo

    purojogo Member

    Sep 23, 2001
    US/Peru home
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Everything in quotation marks are paraphrases....I prefer to listen in Spanish as is the original language of the interviews.... and i find that the better way not to misrepresent or misrepresent the least possible :p
    next up Fonseca....saying how "Mexico, unlike the US at Azteca, will come to establish dominance in Saturday's game" -"proponer"-if anyone has a better translation/suggestion, please bring it up-
    "but that they will be smart about it"
    "HOw this group they have is more positive and united than ever before"
    When asked what would happen if they were to lose and they'd react Fonseca mentions "How they are not even considering losing to the US, even though they know there is always the possibility of losing in soccer, he would not know how to react, they are not planning to lose, and will play accordingly""
     
  5. purojogo

    purojogo Member

    Sep 23, 2001
    US/Peru home
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    NOw they have both Borguetti and Torrado...

    B. says that "they have faith, confidence in LAvolpe's tactics and expect a different WC come 06...HOw this differene in attitude, style and competitiveness help to have more confidence the upcoming match"

    Torrado talk of his play in Sevilla, return to MExico, speaks that "like Borguetti he believes that this team is different, and because of it, they also feel more confident"

    Borguetti " sees more, younger players that stregthen the team, players that at a younger and younger age are becoming part of Mexico's squad, and that in itself is a credit to the evolution of their team, since this did not use to happen as much before"

    Torrado speak of how "the experience and maturity of players going through for example Copa Lib. Olympics, U-20, helps these young players take more responsibilities and makes for fans and older players to demand out of them the effort and performances demanded oout of players like himself" (who is among the most experienced) or Borguetti (who at 32 is the oldest)

    Borguetti says "stats don't matter, we don't care that it's been a while since they scored vs. the US in America"

    Torrado concurs, "we don't care , we are coming to this game with a strong mentality, ready to play the US"
     
  6. USsoccerLA

    USsoccerLA New Member

    Feb 15, 2005
    Los Angeles
    God I hate borghetii hes such a prick. As soon as the interviewer mentioned that they havent won in 6 years he shut up they guy and smiling said "we dont think about that stuff that doesnt matter to us" what a **********


    sorry didnt read the whole thing borghetti is still a prick
     
  7. purojogo

    purojogo Member

    Sep 23, 2001
    US/Peru home
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Now Borguetti speaks of EPL....HOw despite the appearances/stereotypes of "kick long ball, run" "it's a pretty strong league with very good players" he loves the experience and "believes other Mexicans can play at this level"

    Torrado now about his Spain Exp. "training and playing give you the experrience to compare level of play and that he feels more Mexicans could play in LA liga"

    Next up the point is brought up that it was the Confederations Cup that sealed the deal for him and arose an even stronger interest from BOlton...They had seen him before but this tourney sealed it.... [for those among us who feel this small tourneys don't matter at all]

    Borguetti says how playing within the US (friendlies) is not the way to go in order to make players more likely to be bought/arise interest from Euro clubs, but to play OVER THERE (in Europe).... <can't argue there, for once>
    that Euros pay attention more to the CL, Uefa, Confederations Cup, league play and having one's NT play over in Europe itself.....

    the impartial interviewer wishes the players luck and hopes for 2 goals from Borguetti. Saturday ....

    Torrado say "just like Borguetti I'm convinced we are going to beat the US"
     
  8. mickhayafe

    mickhayafe New Member

    Jun 4, 2002
    Bakersfield, CA
    I'ld consider what they did at the wc as pretty good, their best is quarterfinals in the history of the WC, right? what are they saying, we sucked, we will win next time?
     
  9. purojogo

    purojogo Member

    Sep 23, 2001
    US/Peru home
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    perhaps that their mentality/attitude was not the best, you know.... willing to blame everything in themselves rather than ever EVER giving the US any credit, maybe? that's the attitude i got just listening to them, since i was mostly typing/translating to what they were saying.....

    ANd furthermore, Lavolpe IIRC a few days ago said it was QF at this time around or bust
     
  10. Asprilla9

    Asprilla9 Member

    Dec 15, 2000
    Beaverton, OR
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    the fact that this issue has gotten as much play as it has on these boards, really makes me question the intelligence levels of the BS posters.

    actually it makes me question the intelligence of the Mexican posters. actually, to take it one further, it makes me question the intelligence of the Tri players and Lavolpe. Wait a second .... STOP THE PRESSES: you mean to tell me, you DON'T expect the US to employ a strategy that exposes their weaknesses and leaves them tactically vulnerable????????????? HOLY SH1T. that is quite a revelation.

    again, to say that one time is one thing, but to keep repeating the same line every time the US/Mexico game approaches ... for the last 5-6 years. are they complete idiots or machismo-driven robots???????????
     
  11. mickhayafe

    mickhayafe New Member

    Jun 4, 2002
    Bakersfield, CA
    I guess BA plays chess, and Lavolpe plays tic-tac-toe
     
  12. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Toscana
    proponer

    In this sense I believe it means to be assertive, or to take it to us.
     
  13. DonCorleone

    DonCorleone New Member

    Jun 21, 2005
    NY state.
    I thought we played open game recently in Azteca. There was no bunker at all.
     
  14. Liviu

    Liviu New Member

    Jul 12, 2005
    Illinois, USA
    You're underestimating the human ego. LaVolpe knows that Bruce reads the press and is trying to provoke him by saying this crap. It obviously shouldn't work, but who knows? It's obviously a psychological game, and sometimes they work.
     
  15. Asprilla9

    Asprilla9 Member

    Dec 15, 2000
    Beaverton, OR
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    'tis a good point.

    i will say this though: i've read similar comments before each and every US/Mexico match since .... well, probably at least 2001. if that tactic is not working, maybe they should try something else.

    Bruce is not driven by this Latin ego thing where you have to play more attractive soccer than the opponent. thus goading him probably isn't going to yield any results.
     
  16. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    I am sorry to say that at the Azteca, it was the other way around. Lavolpe completely outcoached Arena on Xs and Os ... and then Arena outcoached himself also.

    The pre-game talk is just PR nonsense.
     
  17. mickhayafe

    mickhayafe New Member

    Jun 4, 2002
    Bakersfield, CA
    yeah, all the other wins against Lavolpe were flukes? I agree one game BA was outcoached, but BA has had Lavolpe's number.
     
  18. Asprilla9

    Asprilla9 Member

    Dec 15, 2000
    Beaverton, OR
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    they haven't played all that many matches have they? i remember the one in houston ... maybe there were 1-2 others ...
     
  19. mickhayafe

    mickhayafe New Member

    Jun 4, 2002
    Bakersfield, CA
    I was refering to the past few years in which the US has played Mexico and BA has out-strategized Mexcico

    my favorite post in the past few months, I think
     
  20. cpwilson80

    cpwilson80 Member+

    Mar 20, 2001
    Boston
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    After our Copa America win in 1995, we went a good five years without beating Mexico.

    And if you look at competitive games, we won the biggest one in the World Cup, but we split the qualifiers in 2001 and lost the most recent one this year.

    I still expect a win against Mexico, but let's not get crazy and think this is a done deal.
     
  21. Martin Fischer

    Martin Fischer Member+

    Feb 23, 1999
    Kampala. Uganda
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Borguetti ought to concentrate on showing that he can play at that level -- that is the surest way to increase interest in Mexican players there.
     
  22. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    Arena is 1-1-1 vs. Lavolpe, with the win coming in Dallas on Eddie Pope's goal.

    In any case, Mexico will play the US in the US because it likes the $$$ that come from playing here. In essense, this becomes a neutral ground match since the Tricolor fans outnumber the Sam's Army in the big Southwest stadiums. But these are usually friendlies where the purpose is to blood the new talent rather than to prevail with the final score anyway.

    And so Arena is 0-1 vs. Lavolpe where it counts.
     
  23. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Toscana
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    Hey, didn't I once see him playing a bad guy on Miami Vice?
     
  24. Shaydee

    Shaydee Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    New Jersey
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    reminds me of Dennis Farina

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    Avi???
     
  25. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    I don't understand why this upsets people. Should borghetti say, "yeah we haven't beaten them in the US for a while now. We're all depressed about it, and I doubt we'll come out on top this weekend." No, you expect the guy to say previous meetings don't matter and we expect to win. He didn't say a thing in this interview that I wouldn't expect from a professional soccer player.

    I also don't understand the mexican complaining about the way we play. So if you know how we're going to play, go out and devise a way to beat us. You want us to play a more open style so you can take advantage of our weaknesses. Brilliant. Bruce will no doubt do exactly that.

    You play to win the game, moron.
     

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