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Discussion in 'New England Revolution' started by MLSFan123, Aug 1, 2012.

  1. MLSFan123

    MLSFan123 Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Boston Area
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Updated today. Includes Bengston at 120k. Would love to know how big the transfer fee was and how many years it will be amortized in the DP budget.

    If it was not huge, the Revs could have all three DP slots open next year.

    http://www.mlsplayers.org/salary_info.html
     
  2. NFLPatriot

    NFLPatriot Member+

    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Top 5 paid Revs (guaranteed comp)
    1. Feilhaber $446K
    2. Alston, $169K
    3. Reis $160K
    4. Rowe $156K
    5. Moreno, $149K

    Well done, Burns. :rolleyes:

    Most teams have key players in the 200-300K range. Not us.
     
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  3. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm hoping to have the time later today, but anyone have the chance now to come up with where we stand on the cap? Our top 20 players?
     
  4. Crooked

    Crooked Member+

    May 1, 2005
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    That list is embarrassing. The fact that we only have one player making over $200k is probably indicative of our performance thus far this year, huh? Here's how I look at our current situation:

    1. Overpaid primadonna
    2. Kevin Alston (seriously, Kevin Alston?!?)
    3. 37 year old goalkeeper
    4. Rookie
    5. Out of shape bum who never wanted to come here in the first place.
     
  5. Kraft Out

    Kraft Out Member+

    Aug 2, 2010
    Boston
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    hahaha and some of you fools still spend money on this team
     
  6. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If it makes you feel better, #4 doesn't even count against our cap!

    Oh ... wait, that doesn't help.
     
  7. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Going by the rules and regulations listed here...

    Here's what our cap figure looks like (with the current players, at their current salaries, and not including GA or DAP), in thousands:

    Alston-169
    Barnes-69.313
    Boggs-44.1
    Cardenas-99.996
    Feilhaber-350
    Gavin-80
    Guy-44.1
    Lechner-48.104
    McCarthy-82.95
    Moreno-149
    Nguyen-50.5
    Nyassi-90.75
    Reis-159.667
    Sene-148.844
    Shuttleworth-44.1
    Simms-78.333
    Soares-116.45
    Tierney-74.792
    Bengtson-350
    Imbongo-50

    Brettschneider - Off-Budget Player
    Fagundez - DAP
    Murray - Off-Budget Player
    Polak - GA
    Purdie - Off-Budget Player
    Roach - Off-Budget Player
    Rowe - GA

    I freely admit I'm making a guesstimate on Imbongo.

    The 20 players on the "senior roster" add up to a whopping $2.3m. The expected cap for 2012 was around $2.8m.

    The numbers above obviously don't include Joseph, but then again, I've included a full year for Bengtson, so those even out. Lozano's half year could have been used, but that didn't fit the parameters I set above.
     
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  8. Crooked

    Crooked Member+

    May 1, 2005
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    They listed Imbongo's salary, 79.87 guaranteed.
     
  9. MLSFan123

    MLSFan123 Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Boston Area
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I did not see Bengston in your list above. I may have missed him. What is DAP by the way?

    But that being said, I think Benston makes less at a full year salary (120) that SJ would have at half a season (175).

    Also, while we may never know for sure I have to think the Revs are paying some of his salary to help facilitate the trade.
     
  10. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Edited:

    Going by the rules and regulations listed here...

    Here's what our cap figure looks like (with the current players, at their current salaries, and not including GA or DAP), in thousands:

    Alston-169
    Barnes-69.313
    Boggs-44.1
    Cardenas-99.996
    Feilhaber-350
    Gavin-80
    Guy-44.1
    Lechner-48.104
    McCarthy-82.95
    Moreno-149
    Nguyen-50.5
    Nyassi-90.75
    Reis-159.667
    Sene-148.844
    Shuttleworth-44.1
    Simms-78.333
    Soares-116.45
    Tierney-74.792
    Bengtson-350
    Imbongo-80

    Brettschneider - Off-Budget Player
    Fagundez - DAP
    Murray - Off-Budget Player
    Polak - GA
    Purdie - Off-Budget Player
    Roach - Off-Budget Player
    Rowe - GA

    Corrected for Imbongo.

    The 20 players on the "senior roster" add up to a whopping $2.33m. The expected cap for 2012 was around $2.8m.

    The numbers above obviously don't include Joseph, but then again, I've included a full year for Bengtson, so those even out. Lozano's half year could have been used, but that didn't fit the parameters I set above.
    Thanks, fixed.
    He's on the list, and DAP is development academy player, they don't count on the cap.
    I'm going by the rules I had listed, where the budget would be $175k...
    May be true, but can't include that in these numbers since we have no idea.
     
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  11. NFLPatriot

    NFLPatriot Member+

    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bengston is only making $120K, but the transfer fee, which made him a DP, counts against the cap too, so he gets the DP cap charge of $175K for half a season.
     
  12. LongDuckDong

    LongDuckDong Member+

    Jan 26, 2011
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What's wrong with having some cap space. Doesn't that mean we have some wiggle room to add players?
     
  13. Kraft Out

    Kraft Out Member+

    Aug 2, 2010
    Boston
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Yeah! That's been the Revs motto since 1996!
     
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  14. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Cap space is fantastic. When you're about $500k under at this point though, it doesn't help you much.
     
  15. RevsFanDan

    RevsFanDan Member

    May 24, 2005
    North Shore
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They needed the cash to upgrade concessions, etc?
     
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  16. huskydeac

    huskydeac Member+

    Mar 31, 2009
    Kraft is going to sign a sweet wide receiver with that cap space. What? That cap space can't be carried over to football? Why the hell did I buy this team??
     
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  17. rkupp

    rkupp Member+

    Jan 3, 2001
    You have to figure in all the money paid to players who aren't here any more. I'm not sure if what was paid to Joseph balances out the extra half year you included for Bengston, but there's Lozano, Rjunstrom and White to figure in.

    Plus there are some other nuances, it's not quite as simple as your calculation (as Mike Burns loves to point out ;)). For some rough numbers, it's fine, but please don't use $500K under the cap as "fact".
     
  18. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In regards to Joseph, I did take exactly half his cap hit and put it to Bengtson, so those equal out.

    In regards to Rjunstrom and White, their half costs are covered by my putting in Imbongo at full cost. Those don't matter anyway since they were all miniscule. You can add $70k or so for Lozano if you want, doesn't really matter. As I'd noted "Here's what our cap figure looks like (with the current players, at their current salaries, and not including GA or DAP), in thousands:"
    Since we have no idea what the nuances are, and we see other teams spending way over us ... I think $500k is a safe figure and they could have gone higher (as other teams have)...
     
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  19. LongDuckDong

    LongDuckDong Member+

    Jan 26, 2011
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ok, but KSG/theRevs have absolutely nothing to gain by dumping salary at this point. The only logical reason to do so is to open up space for other players. It's not like Shalrie was doing much anyway.
     
  20. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Same thing has been said repeatedly the past few years. I guess it depends on if you're thinking for this year, or next.

    We've got a good amount of money (don't want to use $500k as fact after all), and it's most likely really too late to bring in anyone that's going to a) cost you a lot and b) help all that much.

    So the money is there, for next year ... along with Moreno's salary I'm assuming, and some others (which will help cover the increase for Nguyen).
     
  21. LongDuckDong

    LongDuckDong Member+

    Jan 26, 2011
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Let me reframe this:

    1.) If the status quo remains for the rest of the season, MLS would distribute the remaining $500k under the budge equally (as described by the MLSPU).

    2.) If we sign a player or two, MLS would pay the remaining budget space to that(those) player(s).

    In both scenarios, KSG has to pay approximately $26,000 max ($500,000/19teams) to the league during next years capital call.
     
  22. frankieg73

    frankieg73 Member

    New England Revolution
    Portugal
    Apr 8, 2001
    St. Petersburg, FL (not my choice)
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Who else is going to help pay for these salaries? :D
     
  23. frankieg73

    frankieg73 Member

    New England Revolution
    Portugal
    Apr 8, 2001
    St. Petersburg, FL (not my choice)
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    The Revs ARE the football team.
     
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  24. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree with you. And that's why I have never understood why they don't always spend to the cap.
     
  25. firstshirt

    firstshirt Member+

    Bayern München
    United States
    Mar 1, 2000
    Ellington, CT / NK, RI
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Even if its 400k that is way too much to save for a rainy day.
     

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