Lastort's neighbor charged with spying for Iraq

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  1. dfb547490

    dfb547490 New Member

    Feb 9, 2000
    The Heights
    http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/03/11/iraq.spy.case.ap/index.html

    (Yes, the subject line is a joke, I have no idea how big of a town Takoma Park is)

    If it's true, fry 'er.
     
  2. minorthreat

    minorthreat Member

    Jan 1, 2001
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  3. Finnegan

    Finnegan Member

    Sep 5, 2001
    Portland Oregon
    I was born and raised in Takoma Park, MD (also known as the "People's Republic"). Our mayor Sammy Abott in 1979 saved the place from being ruined by a big ol freeway. It's a great place to grow up and raise children. Very progressive, open minded and multicultural.

    Don't smear a great city with the actions of one traitor.
     
  4. fidlerre

    fidlerre Member+

    Oct 10, 2000
    Central Ohio
    if robert hanssen didn't get the death penalty...

    this lady sure as hell won't. this is peanuts.
     
  5. DJPoopypants

    DJPoopypants New Member

    "On January 8, 2003, prosecutors said, Lindauer tried to influence U.S. foreign policy by delivering to the home of a U.S. government official a letter in which she conveyed her access to and contacts with members of Saddam's regime. The official was not identified in the indictment."

    Dude - why wait for a trial? She delivered a letter! Burn her!!!!!

    OK, the allegations from the undercover FBI/Libyan conduit to post-Saddam resistance fighters are serious. That would make her no different than any other terrorist financier if she gave money/support.

    But she "spied" for Saddam by delivering a letter, or by meeting with Iraqis before the war? That's some super-serious evil going on there I think. If the government ain't gonna let a mob lynch her, they better put her on one of those offshore naval brigs guarded by nuclear submarines right fast, don't ya think?

    (By the way, can I bet now that these charges will stick, oh, about as much as the spying charges on those terrorist chaplains down in Gitmo?)
     
  6. eneste

    eneste Member

    Mar 24, 2000
    Pittsburgh, PA
    You frighten me, dude.
     
  7. DJPoopypants

    DJPoopypants New Member

    reason #235564 to wait until the next day to find out the real news

    Yet more proof of an international conspiracy between the white house and their pawn Saddam;

    "The cousin of White House chief of staff Andrew Card was arrested yesterday - and accused of being a spy for Saddam Hussein's regime."

    So basically, once it was realized she was not still on Mosely Braun's payroll, and thus could be tied to traitors both democratic and in the White House, well, the tone of everything changes;

    Lindauer was "not really a spy, but she did violate several laws," a senior U.S. intelligence official said.

    "She's a small fry," agreed an FBI official in Washington.


    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/story/172756p-150601c.html

    Ain't it funny how things work out that way?

    ( I guess somebody got what they wanted - she is "fryed")
     
  8. DoyleG

    DoyleG Member+

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  9. USAsoccer

    USAsoccer Member

    Jul 15, 1999
    Tampa, Florida
    Another example of media bias....

    Anyone who wants to understand why the media are held in such low regard by the public — in polls of the most respected professions we usually come somewhere between Nigerian e-mail scammers and serial pedophiles — should consider the following headline from an Associated Press story in the Seattle Post-Intelligencer last week:
    "Accused spy is cousin of Bush staffer."
    The accused person is Susan Lindauer, charged with working for Saddam's intelligence agency. She describes herself merely as an "antiwar activist," though, as the daily rummage through the Ba'athists' scrupulous paperwork indicates more clearly every day, being an antiwar activist and on the Saddamite payroll are by no means mutually exclusive.
    Before she allegedly became an Iraqi agent, Miss Lindauer spent a decade in Washington working for four members of Congress, Peter DeFazio, Ron Wyden, Carol Moseley Braun and Zoe Lofgren. What do these four legislators have in common?
    Answer: They all have a "D" after their names.
    But to The Seattle Post-Intelligencer's headline writer the salient fact about Miss Lindauer is not her 10 years of work for the Democratic Party but the amazing revelation she is a second cousin of Bush chief of staff Andrew Card.
    A second cousin. Hold the front page.
    Here's an easy test for the publisher, editor and news staff of the paper:
    (1) Name all your second cousins.
    (2) Where do they live?
    (3) When did you last see them?
    It's one thing for the press to be antiwar and feel Saddam should be given another decade or two to come into compliance with Security Council resolutions. It's quite another to be so smitten with the old butcher that your copy editors internally absorb Ba'ath Party tribal politics and assume that mere second cousinship with members of the Bush clan automatically puts you in the inner circle.

    Rest of article can be found....

    www.washingtontimes.com
     
  10. NER_MCFC

    NER_MCFC Member

    May 23, 2001
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    One of the crimes she was charged with involved her actually trying to contact Card (or used his name when trying to contact the Whitehouse, I don't remember which), so it's relevant to the story.
    Also, complaining about a headline in a paper that picked up another paper's story is the very definition of grasping at straws. Your use of the word 'we' implies that you are involved in the wacky world of media. If that's the case then you should be well aware of how headlines get written and why even the ones that look biased are rarely evidence of anything except an on rushing deadline and the pressure that comes with it.
     
  11. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
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    Do you have a link to the SPI article? Or only a link to the Moonie paper that talks about the SPI article?
     
  12. GringoTex

    GringoTex Member

    Aug 22, 2001
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    Re: Another example of media bias....

    Actually, the woman is not being accused of spying. This must show the Seattle Posts's bias against over-the-hill, strung-out liberal peace activists.
     
  13. Garcia

    Garcia Member

    Dec 14, 1999
    Castro Castro
    Re: Re: Another example of media bias....

    MARCH 11--A former Democratic congressional aide was arrested today on charges that she worked as an Iraqi spy. Susan Lindauer, 41, has been charged with conspiring to work with the Iraqi Intelligence Service and engaging in prohibited financial transactions with Saddam Hussein's government, according to the below indictment unsealed today by federal prosecutors in New York. Lindauer, arrested this morning at her Maryland home, allegedly met with Iraqi agents during several visits to the country's U.N. mission, where she "accepted various payments" in return "for services provided to the IIS in the course of her ongoing intelligence relationship with them." Lindauer, who also allegedly traveled to Iraq in early-2002 to meet with IIS agents, has previously worked as a press spokesperson for several elected officials, including former Senator Carol Moseley-Braun and congressmen Ron Wyden and Peter DeFazio. (14 pages)

    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0311041lind1.html
     
  14. GringoTex

    GringoTex Member

    Aug 22, 2001
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    Re: Re: Re: Another example of media bias....

    If you'll look closely at your own evidence, you'll notice she was charged with "conspiracy to act as an unregistered agent of a foreign government," not spying.
     
  15. Garcia

    Garcia Member

    Dec 14, 1999
    Castro Castro
    Re: Re: Re: Re: Another example of media bias....

    Did I write one single word of my own in my post?

    Actually, it looks like there are 11 counts in total. While she can be labled as a spy or spying, she'd need to be in a position with one govt and giving/selling information to a second govt (not counting corporate spying) to be charged as a spy, at least that is what I could guess, right?

    If you want to split hairs on the "accused spy" lable in the article, then go ahead. Legally she is not being charged with "espionage" which goes with "spy" and the "act of", but why would calling her a spy bother you? I understand your claim in the context of this thread, which calls into question the wording and bias.

    If you look into your neighbor's trash or bedroom, you could be called a trash picker, a pervert and guess what, a spy!

    In the very least, we should get the terms correct, so what would you call her?

    This might only matter in the event she is convicted. A convicted spy can be put to death.
     
  16. Garcia

    Garcia Member

    Dec 14, 1999
    Castro Castro
    Mike Lastort, I bumped this for you. I know you have been on vacation. ;)

    I like Brit, so was watching Fox News, and they had a segment on The People's Republic of Tacoma Park.

    Not only is that "spy" lady from there, but Johnny Taliban Walker lived there before the family moved to California.

    Do you know Mike Tidwell with his corn burning stove? :D
     

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