Larry King Q & A

A great find. This is surely something I've always complained about. It can't be called "World Champions" if it's only within a country with the exception of a couple of Canadian countries. I definitely don't agree with King. Even though many British claim to have invented soccer, when Manchester United wins the Premiership title, the British never use the term, "World Champions." Also, great point about the club and country of basketball. I guess the NBA people just don't know the difference between club and country.

 

Holy Flying Bat-Crap Batman, pass me the shovel!!

This Larry King has to be the most moronic individual on TV. Does he actually believe all this crap or, more likely, has his ego stuck up his ass.
Why is he allowed to answer questions in a sports mag anyway? Perhaps they should name that section: Q & O... as in Questions & Opinions.

Here's what we are "World Champions" of: Deception.
We excel at the ability(when one knows he is wrong) to circumvent truth and deceive people by willingly dispensing deceptive, illogical and yet seemingly intelligible explanations, just for the sole purpose of wanting to change other people's opinions and make them conform to our own.

 

Stupid Canadian.

Mr. King's answer is valid. We have the only big American Football league in the world, with ALL of the talent. Therefore, when a team wins the Super Bowl, they can be legitametly recognized as World Champs. The same can be said for Baseball, Basketball, and Hockey.

 

Larry King, answering a reporter's question about Yugoslavia becoming Basketball World Champions:
"Yugoslavia??... Basketball World Champions???... HOW DARE THEY!!
WE control the world!!. Yugoslavia can call themselves World Champions only when WE allow them to be called World Champions, regardless of whether or not they can beat the living snot out of us."


Humor aside, I would like to hear reactions about L.K.'s statement from any Yugoslavians on this board.

 

Last time I checked Cuba, Venezuela, and Dominican Republic are baseball crazed countries. Any one of their league teams can beat ours. But we'll never know since there really isn't club to club competition in baseball. Second, we can't say we have all the talent if we never have our clubs play head to head with the clubs from other countries in football, basketball, baseball, or hockey. Real Madrid has the best talent in the world with Zidane, Figo, Ronaldo, Raul, Roberto Carlos, and Casillas. Does that give them the right to call them "World Champions"? Because even though they just took over first place in Spain, they've been struggling all season long. What about the Intercontinental Cup three years ago with Real Madrid and Boca Juniors? Clearly, European clubs are much more talented than South American clubs. So I guess we might as well call Real Madrid the "World Champions" that year? Nope, because Boca Juniors defeated them 2-1. The point is, you can't say "World Champions" unless there's head to head competition with other countries. Hey, it's even possible an NFL Europe team can beat an NFL team.

 

Re: Re: Larry King Q & A

I'm not too sure you'll find many Yugoslavians on these boards.

And Yugoslavia beat thee snot out of our Z team. Once 2004 rolls around, them and the rest of the world are done.

 

Give me some of what you're smoking. Thats gotta be some good shit.

You're saying a Venezualan, Dominican or Cuban baseball club team could take an MLB team? That's insane. All the talent from those countries come to the MLB. Central American club teams would struggle in AA. It doesn't matter that other countries have leagues, the fact is that all their best players come here to play, therefore our leagues in Baseball, and American football are the best. Warranting the title "World Champions" in their respective sports. And that whole Club Championship thing. I don't think Madrid, or the rest of the world for that matter, takes it very seriously. Just because Boca lucks out and nips a one goal win off of Real, doesn't make Boca the best club in the world.

And no, it isn't possible for an NFL Europe team to beat an NFL team, because NFL Europe is for football players who can't even make it in the NFL yet.

 

So you're basically saying upsets aren't possible? I seem to recall a past game over the summer in which we defeated Portugal 3-2 with the so-called "low quality" MLS players over the "highly talented" Figo and Rui Costa.

 

Oh and it's quite a shame you didn't bring up the InterAmerican Cup when DC defeated Vasco. Don't know much about Brazilian soccer but Vasco didn't bring their full lineup to lose that game. Also quite funny how Real Madrid worked so hard to try and win that game against Boca.

 

So you're basically saying that the Scottish Claymores would have a shot against the Bucs.

 

Yes. How did the Rochester Rhinos defeat the Crew that year in the Open Cup championship?

 

So which excuse...er, I mean reason... is it now??
Larry justifies it by attributing it to where the sports has its origins; you are saying it's because ALL the talent is here??.
So by your reasoning, if all the soccer talent is in Europe, does this mean the US can NEVER be called World Champions EVEN if they win a true world championship, The World Cup?

 

Don't change the subject to upsets. Your original argument was that countries like Cuba could measure up to the MLB.


Where is the WCC held? Hm? Tokyo. That's where. The capitol of a country just recently turned on to football. If Madrid won, they could've broken into the Japanese market, and start generating obscene amounts of money. Madrid didn't work that hard for that silly trophy. They were working for the yen, hombre.

 

It isn't possible?????
I'm sure we probably said they same EXACT thing about our basketball Dream Team last year!!!! ...or you are trying to forget?

 

Cuba and MLB was an example. If a Cuban team plays an MLB team and won, isn't that considered an upset? My arguement is that we won't know whether Cuban or MLB teams are better unless they play each other.

 

No, because NFL Europe teams don't play NFL teams.


Why am I wasting my time?

 

Are Derek Jeter and Jason Giambi, and Barry Bonds all flocking to Havana? No they're not. It's common-fvcking sense of who's better.

 

It's common sense to realize that it's not all about talent. The less-talented might have better tactics to defeat a more talented team. For the 100th time, recall US and Portugal?

 

Yeah, Maybe the Havana Commies would beat the Yankees 1 time out of 1000, but the point is that MLB is the best league in the world, and it's champion warrants the title "World Champions". End of Story.

 

Can you NOT see your contadiction in your statements???

If these Cuban baseball players are good enough to be brought over and prosper in our league, what makes you so sure they can't beat any of our teams??

 

This is the most ethnocentric bullcrap Ive ever read. No team has the right to call themselves "World Champion" if there is are non-domestic teams willing to compete for that title. I dont care if its football, baseball, or whatever. The Anaheim Angels and the Tampa Bay Bucs are NOT the World Champions. Last I checked Japan had a pretty good league that produced MLB stars like Ichiro. Who's to say that their Giants couldnt beat our Giants?? Just because its unlikely doesnt mean it couldnt happen. Thats what sports are all about. Competition.
America is a democracy, so in the spirit of our forefathers we need to either drop our fascist sporting policy and allow other teams to challenge our best, or simply bite the bullet and refer to our domestic champions as American Champions, and not World Champions.

 

Amen.

 

Amen to that as well.

 

No it's not!!!!!!
They haven't proved it yet!!!

Remember the American motto: Innocent until proven guilty?

Well, an MLB team can't call itself World Champion until it proves by beating another country's champion!
Otherwise, who is to say Havana can't call themselves World Champions?