Land+Nation

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by salyal, Dec 4, 2004.

  1. salyal

    salyal New Member

    Oct 24, 2004
    Land without nation to nation without land.

    This is the situation in Palestine since 1948
     
  2. NoodlesMacintosh

    NoodlesMacintosh New Member

    Aug 24, 2004
    Salt Lake City
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    No offense, but what's your point? Why'd you bring this up?
     
  3. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    A link to David Duke. A bigsoccer first.
     
  4. DoctorJones24

    DoctorJones24 Member

    Aug 26, 1999
    OH
    Huh. I thought Duke had begun hiding his facist leanings in recent years...

    "In that period of time, many of the names of the most powerful people in the media have changed. However the changes have typically been the change of Goldenson to Greenberg or perhaps Cohen to Levin. The names change but the ethnicity typically remains the same. If you are not aware of the extent of Jewish supremacy over the mass media, you will be astounded by this well-documented article."

    :D
     
  5. dfb547490

    dfb547490 New Member

    Feb 9, 2000
    The Heights
    He probably thought it was Duke University. That or he just doesnt care.
     
  6. DutchOven

    DutchOven Red Card

    Nov 16, 2004
    I wish God would kill Blogs.
     
  7. 352klr

    352klr Member

    Jan 29, 2001
    The Burgh of Edin
  8. metrocorazon

    metrocorazon Member

    May 14, 2000
    [artie] waaaaaaah I dont have a nation waaaahhh!
    Jews are killing my people waaaaaaahh![/artie]
     
  9. dfb547490

    dfb547490 New Member

    Feb 9, 2000
    The Heights
    [Moleman]Eh, you'd only waste it anyway.[/Moleman]
     
  10. dj43

    dj43 New Member

    Aug 9, 2002
    Nor Cal
    So why didn't the Palestinians take advantage of the opportunity provided in 1947/48?

    Or the offer Arafat turned down in 1998?
     
  11. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    Because David Duke told them it was a bad deal. Duh!
     
  12. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
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    That reminds me, what happened to Mozilla, anyway?
     
  13. Rocket

    Rocket Member

    Aug 29, 1999
    Chicago
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    Everton FC
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    United States
    Besides the Intifada, what other wars have the Palestinians ever started?
     
  14. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    Sorry, I prefer not to flame those who I don't already know are idiots, but this is a really, really, REALLY deep stab at sarcasm, yes? Because otherwise all that post reveals is your utter lack of knowledge on the subject.
     
  15. Rocket

    Rocket Member

    Aug 29, 1999
    Chicago
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    Everton FC
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    United States
    No, I'm serious.

    The Arab-Israeli war was mainly instigataged by Israelis and non-Palestinian Arabs.

    The Israelis started the 1967 War.

    And Egypt and Syria started the 1973 War.


    Where were the Palestinians in all this? On the sidelines as refugees, mostly.
     
  16. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    The Palestinians started the very first war. That's pretty much historical fact. And it was most certainly not "instigated" by Israelis.
     
  17. Rocket

    Rocket Member

    Aug 29, 1999
    Chicago
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    Everton FC
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    United States
    You're forgetting about the Zionist terrorists who helped create the seeds of war by massacreing Arabs earlier that year.
     
  18. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    What? Which Zionist terrorists were those? Arabs attacked Israel as soon as it declared its independence. You're going to try and pin that on Israel? Whoooo boy.
     
  19. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    And you're forgetting countless acts of terror by Palestinians from 1920-1948.
     
  20. Kappa18

    Kappa18 New Member

    Aug 9, 2002
    Toronto, Canada
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    Beitar Jerusalem FC
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    Israel

    -The Black September (9/1970) In Jordan, which saw Arafat trying to topple King Hussien, and watching king Hussien's nerve blow up on him and his palestinains with a 3 week onslaught that saw aprox 30,000 palestinians killed by the Royal Army and its affiliates.


    - The Lebanese Civil war (1975-1990), following the Black September incident, Arafat, the PLO and there fellow helpers ran away from Jordan, into Lebanon and set up there base there. Immediately following, the Palestinain militants, who most of them were muslim and a somewhat chunk were from other parts of the islamic world (Ex: Pakistan, Sudan, Etc..) gunned down 5 Christian Phalangist monks and soon after the Christians (with every right) retaliated, and in the end, started the Lebanese Civil war, which last 15 years, and claimed the lives of around 250,000 Civilians in a nation that is around 2.6-3.3 million people.

    -The Gulf War (aftermath, 1991). After Kuwait got liberated, many of the Palestinains who lived there, decided to still be the eyes and ears for saddam up in bagdhad. Eventhough it was a small number of Palestinains living in Kuwait (300,000 Palestinains before 1991), the kuwaitis had no temper and began an onslaught with the palestinains, which made 300,000 Palestinains flee and many 'disapear' while the others put into these trench-prisons, for the protection of the kuwaiti people...
    Talk about the ROR In kuwiat :D
     
  21. Kappa18

    Kappa18 New Member

    Aug 9, 2002
    Toronto, Canada
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    Beitar Jerusalem FC
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    Israel
    Many of the 'terrorist zionist' which VW tries to refer were in the 1930's, and they were against the attacks that the Arabs had done since the 1920's. Many Muslims and Arabs would try to give you a sweet dish into thinking that there was calm in the holy land between all 3 religions, but that wasn't the case, not in the 1920's and not in the 1800's. Bitterness were between all 3 religions, especially under Ottoman rule, the muslims had an upperhand.....Attacks against Jewish intrest became normal after WW1, and groups such as the Hagana (hebrew term: Defence) came into existing to protect the jewish populations from attacks, inifltrations, lynches and ambushes from the arabs...
     
  22. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Isnt' this thread about bad Palestinian Haiku? Let me try my hand…

    Boom! Big explosion
    Palestinians rejoice.
    Israelis lament.
     
  23. Rocket

    Rocket Member

    Aug 29, 1999
    Chicago
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    Everton FC
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    United States
    I see. The Zionists/Israelis are always without fault.

    What about the bombing of the King David Hotel by zionist terrorists?

    Or the massacres that occured in Lebanon after Ariel Sharon allowed the Philangists into Palestinian refugee camps?
     
  24. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    I don't believe anyone has ever said that. Strawmen are a lot easier to fight.

    First, the English were warned, although they tragically disregarded the warning. I can't countenance that act, but what does it have to do with this discussion? The terrorist act was against the British.

    And this has what to do with the first war?
     

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