Kylian Mbappe, Welcome to Arsenal! - Summer 2024 Transfer Thread

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  1. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
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  2. NorthBank

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    Arsenal; NYRB
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    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
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    I’ve never read a Billy Carpenter analysis before. And TBH I just really skimmed this one, because of time constraints, skipping over entire large sections. Are his analyses usually this in-depth?? Wow!
     
  3. CarlosKaiser

    CarlosKaiser Member+

    Arsenal
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    Jul 30, 2018
    Kansas City
    Not going for Joao Neves, who is 8+ years younger than Merino and only cost 2x as much, despite reports that the club really like him, is pretty interesting to me.
     
  4. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
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  5. The Jitty Slitter

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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
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    Does our boy Timber even make the starting lineup these days?
     
  6. casoccerdad47

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    Mar 31, 2006
    With just 12 days left until the Wolves game, he may start at either LB or RCB on opening day, with both presumed starters at those positions only recently rejoining preseason training. After that he may just be a rotation starter, but I think he will finish a lot of games, especially when Arsenal are up a goal and want to see the game out.
     
  7. yossarian

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    Yes. Always.
     
  8. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
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    Isn’t merino essentially coming for about 25 mill? Thats a rotation player spend

    we still have something big brewing like we just ate at a questionable Taco Bell
     
  9. cooper7d7

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    Feb 7, 2001
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  10. casoccerdad47

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    Mar 31, 2006
    If Merino wasn’t entering the last year of his contract, the number would be higher. For what it’s worth, TransferMarket lists his value at €50m, which in a previous post, was why I called these links bargain hunting.
     
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  11. mebeSajid

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    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
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    PSR/FFP means probably not unless we get Osimhen for a cut price deal.
     
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  12. Serengeti_Boy

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    Sep 15, 2009
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    I'm not sure what our plan is for CF. Surely we can't rely on Jesus and Havertz alone. We're beefing up in defence and midfield has more steel should Merino come in- does this mean Mikel wants us to maintain our goals scored from last year while enforcing steel to hold on to results?

    Calafiori and Merino are set peice threats which we're good add. Maybe MA wants our extra goals to come from there?
     
  13. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    I’m not sure Arsenal have ever been in for Osimhen, but with Academy graduates being pure profit and the ability to spread transfer fees over the length of a players contract (5 years max.), if Arsenal manage to sell Nketiah, Nelson, and Patino for a combined £50m on top of already selling ESR for a guaranteed £27m, I don’t think £100m for Osimhen necessarily runs afoul of PSR/FFP regs.
     
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  14. CarlosKaiser

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    Jul 30, 2018
    Kansas City
    Ornstein reported that not everyone at Arsenal were convinced that Calafiori was good value for what he would cost. Kaya Kaynak said there is a split among those at the club who are huge fans of Merino and others that have concerns about his age. Arteta reportedly wanted to keep ESR before he was sold and wants to keep Nketiah now as they reject offers from OM.

    Easy explanation is this is a negotiating tactic. The club are willing to walk away from a deal if it is too expensive, some at the club don't even want him. Arsenal want to keep the player unless the asking price is met.

    Or...there was the rumor that the Greek dude who owns Forest, Olympiacos and Rio Ave wants to hire Edu to be CEO of all 3 clubs and we're seeing a power struggle between him and Arteta who has one year left on his contract. This doesn't sound like a guy that would be eager to sign Merino:



    (I think it's just a negotiating tactic because running those 3 clubs seems like a huge step down but this is the transfer thread, wild speculation is fun)
     
  15. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
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    Arsenal FC
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    England
    Osihmen is too clumsy for the front line

    he’s a run in behind player but he’s not refined on the ball same as gyokores

    we play a certain style that requires the forward to be able to go wide and drop into midfield

    Havertz is perfect

    if martinelli can get back to his best and Saka stays at his level we are fine

    Jesus can hopefully stay fitter. The issue for me is deep playmaking and I’m hoping the club has someone in mind as Partey is fully washed and Jorginho is old
     
  16. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
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    Outside of age, there were reports about the club management not being sure of caliafiori price as well.
     
  17. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
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    Interesting..... OZ switches to 17. Doesn't seem like something you would bother doing if you were looking to leave.

    [​IMG]
     
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  18. casoccerdad47

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    Mar 31, 2006
    They just sold ESR, who rarely played the last two seasons and also has an injury history, for £27m + £7m and are concerned about whether Calafiori, whose total price is less than £10m more, is value for money?

    There is one legitimate concern about Calafiori, whether his reconstructed knee will continue to withstand the strain placed on it by a professional athlete. Once you make the assumption that two full seasons without significant knee problems suggests the answer is yes, then the price Arsenal paid is the market rate. Chelsea paid similar money for Disasi last year, United paid £60m for 18 year old potential, Everton want £70m for Branthwaite, and the rumored price for Guehi is £50m, but I suspect Palace would want more.
     
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  19. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
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    I think you misunderstood my post.

    There were stories about Arsenal leadership not being convinced we should buy Caliafiori. My point wasn’t to say those concerns were legit concerns, but that the same stories about Merino were out about him. I don’t know if those stories are even legit.
     
  20. flyerhawk

    flyerhawk Member

    Feb 5, 2006
    Hoboken NJ
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    I think we get these sorts of unnamed sources questioning most of our major acquisitions. It makes for good copy.
     
  21. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
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    A little odd to see people leaking stuff like this. We didn't see it in years past. This plus the Edu stories suggests that everything isn't rosy behind the scenes.
     
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  22. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
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  23. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

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    Agreed. But what the hell do we know. IOW, I hope we can improve on him if not improve with him.
     
  24. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

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    Setting up a bit of drama at our GK position. A) Ramsdale stays as rarely used #2, unless we suddenly need him because Raya goes down, and then where does that leave us? Or B) Rambo also goes out (on loan?) and we bring in... who exactly as our new #2? If I had to bet, I'd say "A" is more likely.
     
  25. CarlosKaiser

    CarlosKaiser Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Jul 30, 2018
    Kansas City
    I agree that would suggest he's staying. I'm not sure how much he will play, he's my 4th choice to start at left-back if everyone is healthy (Calafiori, Timber, Tomiyasu). Maybe in cups but depending on the competition, I might prefer MLS get a shot.

    Best role is probably off the bench when a goal is needed.
     

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