Kylian Mbappe, Welcome to Arsenal! - Summer 2024 Transfer Thread

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  1. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    #151 casoccerdad47, Feb 28, 2024
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    Essentially the same price they are asking for Merino. In a world of £100m midfielders, ~£52m midfielders is reasonable.
     
  2. Super Llama

    Super Llama Member+

    May 21, 2006
    Seattle
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    Arsenal FC
    We are not ever making 100m in sales in a window, this regime is incapable of that
     
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  3. Tonerl

    Tonerl Member+

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    May 10, 2006
    Cincinnati, OH
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    United States
    I think you’re right about that figure being highly unlikely, but I also think it’s a little harsh to place all blame for the sales income on this regime. They’ve been dealing with such terrible assets it’s kind of difficult to assess how bad they’ve been at selling.
     
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  4. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Think it's an extremely harsh take: outside of Manchester United, there really aren't any stupid buyers in the market anymore. No one is paying real money for Cedric or Elneny, and so the only players that we could sell for a meaningful amount would need to be replaced.

    Sure, we could sell Eddie for a meaningful amount, but his replacement would cost more than what we'd receive in a fee. And ESR/Reiss Nelson probably wouldn't sell for all that much.
     
  5. Tonerl

    Tonerl Member+

    Arsenal
    May 10, 2006
    Cincinnati, OH
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    Should’ve taken Villa’s money for Smith-Rowe.
     
  6. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
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    Agreed.
     
  7. Tonerl

    Tonerl Member+

    Arsenal
    May 10, 2006
    Cincinnati, OH
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    That’s hindsight, obviously, but it astonishes me how many Arsenal supporters I talk to who are still convinced he’s going to be big for us.
     
  8. And_ROOS

    And_ROOS Member+

    Dec 30, 2006
    Melbourne, Aus
    He still could be. He still has very high potential it depends on Arteta. He isn't like an Nketiah where we have seen what his peak is in this system.
     
  9. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
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    Arsenal FC
    Nah. He's mediocre at the 8 and on the wing. He's a good dribbler, but isn't at all a good passer. He might work at striker as a backup though.
     
  10. CarlosKaiser

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    Jul 30, 2018
    Kansas City
    ESR was coming off his age 21 season where he had scored 10 goals in 21 starts. £30m for a English u21 felt pretty insulting. I thought it was being pushed by his agent to get a new deal which he got along with the 10 shirt. Villa probably looked at his medicals and knew that any more than £30m was too risky.

    Since then he hasn't scored in 2 starts over 1-2/3 seasons.
     
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  11. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
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    United States
    seeing claims that we are working on a 1+1 extension offer for Jorge
     
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  12. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

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    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
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    Seems wise. Hope he accepts it.
     
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  13. Tonerl

    Tonerl Member+

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    May 10, 2006
    Cincinnati, OH
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    United States
    Don’t we have a club option for next season? Why wouldn’t we just exercise that?
     
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  14. CarlosKaiser

    CarlosKaiser Member+

    Arsenal
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    Jul 30, 2018
    Kansas City
    I assume to avoid losing him on a free. Even at his age, I could see a club in Italy, Turkey, Saudi or the US paying a small fee.
     
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  15. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
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  16. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

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    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
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    Arsenal FC
    Anyone follow the Turkish league at all and known anything about Semih Kilicsoy?

    9 goals in his last 10 for Besiktas, 18 years old, playing a mix of LW and CF.
     
  17. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
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    FC Sankt Pauli
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    Belgium
    I think this is a big change in the last recent years -Basically there used to be a secondary market for those players because lower table sides didn't really know who good players were. Now instead of buying an arsenal cast off you can get the same player elsewhere and cheaper. Man U have had huge issues unloading their dross on high salaries
     
  18. maskito

    maskito Member+

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    Jan 14, 2006
    Nashville
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    Also unlikely players go to Saudi at crazy transfer fees and wages either. Can't recall how many months it's been since I heard anything from/about that league. Sounds like most players who took the big paychecks to play there don't think it's worth it.
     
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  19. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
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    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    The other thing is acquisitions used to be quite unprofessional and based totally on relationships. I recall Roy Keane saying when he first went into management, he was able to get players from SAF just by sending him a text. Now you would have a proper talent acquisition department (unless you are Man U)
     
  20. CarlosKaiser

    CarlosKaiser Member+

    Arsenal
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    Jul 30, 2018
    Kansas City
    Yeah, the other problem is the Saudi league had a max of 8 foreign players per club and the PIF clubs filled all their slots. So they will either have to change the rules and hurt their domestic player development or sell one for every player they sign.
     
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  21. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

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    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
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    Arsenal FC
    The government-owned teams maxed out their foreign player spots over the summer, so there won't be any more moves until they expand those limits (from 8 to 10, which will take effect for next season), or players already signed leave. They'll be involved in the summer market.
     
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  22. footykid

    footykid Member+

    Jan 10, 2005
    Mississauga, Ont
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    Arsenal FC
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    France
    I think this is where the academy has to step up especially for Arsenal. You can't be taking risks on squad players, because there is no where to send them.

    To me this is why we keep an Eddie or an ESR unless they want to leave. A player in the current market to replace either could be 50/60 and not be a dead cert upgrade. You are then stuck with that player for 2-3 seasons because of FFP, and then you aren't even gaining capital to invest when you sell him off.

    New management or not ManU has 2-3 years of 7-10 place finishes to fix the squad to the point where they can even utilize the fresh capital investment.
     
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  23. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
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    I'm fond of him but I agree. Arguably switched off to allow the Newcastle goal. Moving forward we have to be willing to kill your darlings as Elliott likes to say.
     
  24. Serengeti_Boy

    Serengeti_Boy Member+

    Sep 15, 2009
    Serengeti, East Africa
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    Arsenal FC
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    Tanzania
    Nah. Turkish players really struggle outside their league. Players at the end of their careers go there to play too speaking volumes of their quality. Pass.
     
  25. CarlosKaiser

    CarlosKaiser Member+

    Arsenal
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    Jul 30, 2018
    Kansas City
    Goes with @chjoak earlier post about building up the youth squad.

     

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