"Kroos'ed to la decimoquinta"- The Official Welcome Toni Kroos Thread

Criticized at Madrid too, it is what it is

 

I think you lot conflate game by game criticism with overall performance critiquing.

Unless any of you say that players can't be criticized on a per game basis.

 

That's only happening in this subforum. The fan love Modric/Kroos anywhere they go, including fan of opposition teams. Zidane/Modric family the most likeable people in Madrid.

 

I'd argue he was chased out of the German NT, similar to when he was at Bayern.

 

Good point, you could be right

 

He plays such an important role of moving the ball around. He just needs the support to cover his physical weaknesses.

Modric as well provides a different angle (and now needs to support to cover his own).

We need either Camavinga to really develop some kind of creative ability or Jude will have to play a deeper role

 

Musiala?

 

He normally plays much further forward though doesn’t he? If he could be an option then we could just try to develop Arda there, I also think Cama is more than capable, just need to get some of that “ dribble first” mentality out of him

 

Funny enough Musiala has that dribble first process as well. Cama seems to have developed in that area. Mind you he ain’t no Kroos but it used to be much worse. Hope he keeps growing and being smarter on the ball. And not to jinx it: lessened that very heavy touch and no longer slipping all over the place.

Now please don’t do it against Bayern

 

True

 

Tricky thing is, he probably wont develop that part of his game that much until Kroos and Modric leave.

 

I don't agree with this. I'm a firm believer in success, adaptation or any kind of change starting mentally before things can happen outside.

He would need to work on that aspect of his game and to have that focus he would need to mentally see that as his next challenge and work toward it.

Doesn't matter who he plays with.

If he does that successfully he would naturally replace them and we would see them as redundant.

 

How can he develop the skills absent consistent repitition if he is required to be the senior statesmen's water carrier whenever he's on the field?

 

Practice.

It makes perfect

 

Well he can definately do that in training if he wants.

But I'm talking more of in game settings.

Not saying its impossible, but its an uphill battle given the current makeup of the midfield.

 

I think that’s the beauty of having someone like Carlo…arguably the coach who has had the most incredible midfielders at his command.
Carlo will know who’s profile lends more to them becoming a Seedorf….Pirlo….Kaka….Kroos or a Lampard.
The man knows how to get the most out of the best talent.

Just look at what he’s done with Fede these 3 seasons.

I fully trust him with Cama/Tchou and Jude.

 

I gotta say I think he’s just as good of a player as Jude quality wise, minus the goals, he’s playing further away but I understand the goalscorers get the glory, I am putting all of our ( younger) mids in the same bracket re quality Fede, Jude, Tchou, Cama, just an amazing quartet , with Arda not far behind I expect huge accomplishments from these guys and the team as a whole going forward , a very talented bunch IMO

 

Toni Kroos for Real Madrid vs. Bayern:

◉ Most touches (98)
◉ Most passes completed (79/82)
◉ Most passes in final 1/3 (16)
◉ Most possessions won (7)
◉ Most interceptions (4)
◉ Most chances created (3)
◉= Most tackles (2)
◉ Most assists (1)

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