"Kroos'ed to la decimoquinta"- The Official Welcome Toni Kroos Thread

4x4s · Nov 28, 2023

It's incredibly bitter for the club to send healthy players off to the national teams, and you keep paying him while he's gone, when he injures himself there you start to question the practice, or you don't because it's all a matter of coincidence and bad luck. But to send a healthy player away and see him return injured for two months up to six, that's just bitter.

There's injuries during the entire year but towards the end of the year you just notice it that longer harder injuries come along. At some point you have to pay for a year like that. Long term you're ruining your best players, the reason people pay tickets and come to watch the team. That's just the result of the current situation and it will not improve, more likely become worse. We have to push the discussion towards somehow having less games on the schedule, otherwise those injuries will become the standard.

From the latest pod. I feel like players should unionize.

Bear Crotch · Nov 28, 2023

Having a winter WC and we're seeing some major injuries for a lot of teams. I'm not a doctor but this isn't rocket science.

dooda · Dec 6, 2023

🐀 Toni Kroos buscando un ratón que se le había colado en casa.pic.twitter.com/xskeJyiANc
— madridistaReal (@RMadridistaReal) December 6, 2023

4x4s · Dec 8, 2023

dooda said: ↑

🐀 Toni Kroos buscando un ratón que se le había colado en casa.pic.twitter.com/xskeJyiANc
— madridistaReal (@RMadridistaReal) December 6, 2023

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Busquets and Alves popping up at the wildest places man.

temesgen · Dec 8, 2023

4x4s said: ↑

Busquets and Alves popping up at the wildest places man.
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the club has been living rent free in pique's mind for so long it almost seems fair

ImadEdd · Dec 13, 2023

Bear Crotch said: ↑

Having a winter WC and we're seeing some major injuries for a lot of teams. I'm not a doctor but this isn't rocket science.
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How many players have played in the World Cup?
How many of them are injured now?
For how long? Is it for longer periods, the same, or less than previous injuries?
How many long-time injured players now have NOT played in the World Cup and got a month of mid-season vacation?
How many games did these injured players play last season? This season? Etc etc etc

And these are only a few questions to establish a semblance of causality or explanatory power... So yeah, it is kind of rocket science if you compare it to the way you reduced the whole debate.

I'd argue a summer World Cup is more damaging to a player who doesn't get enough vacation and doesn't get to fully prepare for the new season with his team.

4x4s · Dec 14, 2023

ImadEdd said: ↑

How many players have played in the World Cup?
How many of them are injured now?
For how long? Is it for longer periods, the same, or less than previous injuries?
How many long-time injured players now have NOT played in the World Cup and got a month of mid-season vacation?
How many games did these injured players play last season? This season? Etc etc etc

And these are only a few questions to establish a semblance of causality or explanatory power... So yeah, it is kind of rocket science if you compare it to the way you reduced the whole debate.

I'd argue a summer World Cup is more damaging to a player who doesn't get enough vacation and doesn't get to fully prepare for the new season with his team.
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The players barely had a summer vacation because it was shortened to compensate for the extended schedule of the world cup, but I agree that we need conclusive numbers and analysis instead of "well damn, it's this stuff" based on our own opinion.

Kroos said his retirement from the national team gave him the break he needed. This is also something people forget, 20 minutes less is nothing. You're not going to get "accumulative rest" from playing 20 minutes less here and there. If we'd want players to be rested we'd give them two weeks off and a schedule where they only stay fit.

Completely unrealistic, so blasting through it is.

It's the same with injuries. Every sports doctor and physio will tell you they can try to get players healthy but the priority is to get them on the field somehow.

MiamiNative0722 · Feb 8, 2024

Toni Kroos. @StatsBomb pic.twitter.com/LbF8g9NMFS
— Madrid Xtra (@MadridXtra) February 8, 2024

34 year old Toni Kroos is still the best line-breaking passer in the game

Bear Crotch · Feb 8, 2024

He's been very good this season.

Excape Goat · Feb 8, 2024

MiamiNative0722 said: ↑

Toni Kroos. @StatsBomb pic.twitter.com/LbF8g9NMFS
— Madrid Xtra (@MadridXtra) February 8, 2024

34 year old Toni Kroos is still the best line-breaking passer in the game
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The team still needs his type of midfielder.

MiamiNative0722 · Feb 8, 2024

Excape Goat said: ↑

The team still needs his type of midfielder.
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I think we should all hope and expect that he’s going to stay a bit longer

Raul-7 · Feb 8, 2024

Agreed; Kroos needs a 1-year extension. He offers something none of our current players possess. We will definitely lose a lot once he retires or leaves RM.

hector_br · Feb 9, 2024

Kroos is still an elite player when surrounded by fast and athletic players. I hope he stays for another year.

Lyra · Feb 11, 2024

🇩🇪 Toni Kroos vs Girona:

◉ 70 touches
◉ 63/64 passes completed
◉ 98% pass accuracy
◉ 1 key pass
◉ 14/14 long passes
◉ 4/6 duels won
◉ 2 tackles
◉ 2/2 crosses

Another big performance. 💪 pic.twitter.com/YPXAbuwv72
— Madrid Zone (@theMadridZone) February 10, 2024

J-Mezzy · Feb 11, 2024

Is he staying?

Saeta Rubia · Feb 11, 2024

J-Mezzy said: ↑

Is he staying?
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100% renewing given the season he's having. Likely to join German NT for Euro 2024 as well.

J-Mezzy · Feb 11, 2024

Saeta Rubia said: ↑

100% renewing given the season he's having. Likely to join German NT for Euro 2024 as well.
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I thought he made it clear he retired from NT football

4x4s · Feb 11, 2024

J-Mezzy said: ↑

I thought he made it clear he retired from NT football
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A lot of people in the team and the federation don't want him back either. That's the rumor right now.

rrrrrafik · Feb 11, 2024

4x4s said: ↑

A lot of people in the team and the federation don't want him back either. That's the rumor right now.
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Why not? Because he left in the first place?

4x4s · Feb 11, 2024

rrrrrafik said: ↑

Why not? Because he left in the first place?
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Some players simply don't like each other.

RoadMan · Feb 11, 2024

Can you please explain a bit more about what is happening inside German NT? Thx

4x4s · Feb 11, 2024

RoadMan said: ↑

Can you please explain a bit more about what is happening inside German NT? Thx
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There's a personal element that people feel like he abandoned the team, and there's the football element where him and Gundogan never worked out together.

To be fair I don't want him back on the national team either.

I think leaving the national team should be a permanent decision.

russian hattie · Feb 11, 2024

It was mentioned somewhere here that as great as our younger midfielders are, we don’t really have anyone with a similar profile to Kroos. We are so fortune to go from Xabi Alonso, to having Toni Kroos. And I don’t know if there is a player out there that could do what those two did. It’s probably the one worry I have for our future midfield. Who is going to be the one the control and dictate things?

Serengeti_Boy · Feb 11, 2024

russian hattie said: ↑

It was mentioned somewhere here that as great as our younger midfielders are, we don’t really have anyone with a similar profile to Kroos. We are so fortune to go from Xabi Alonso, to having Toni Kroos. And I don’t know if there is a player out there that could do what those two did. It’s probably the one worry I have for our future midfield. Who is going to be the one the control and dictate things?
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Madrid succession planning is insane. From Keylor to Courtois, Ramos to Militao, Case to Tchou/Cama, Madrid to Jude next.

How long can Perez be president? Is there a limit or the general time frame most fans think he'll hang his presidential boots?

zizou555 · Feb 11, 2024

Serengeti_Boy said: ↑

Madrid succession planning is insane. From Keylor to Courtois, Ramos to Militao, Case to Tchou/Cama, Madrid to Jude next.

How long can Perez be president? Is there a limit or the general time frame most fans think he'll hang his presidential boots?
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i believe he will probably die in office like our other goat president. Unless he goes senile before that.