Krafts Interested in Buying Liverpool?

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by Northside Rovers, Dec 2, 2004.

  1. Northside Rovers

    Jan 28, 2000
    Austin TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Liverpool mull Kraft-backed takeover?

    Not sure how much accuracy there is to this story - but it is interesting.

    Who knew they were interested in soccer? (joke...kind of)

    Anyway - this plus the Glazer bid for Man U must surely rankle the English. Which is fine.

    I guess my take is this is all fine and good, but they have a soccer team that has been withering on the vine a little bit so it would be nice if the Krafts paid a bit more attention to the team they already own before they go off and get another one.

    But if they can do both - more power to them.
     
  2. The Magpie

    The Magpie Member

    Nov 19, 1998
    Cambridge, MA
    More below:

    Kop Talk: Kraft-y L4 Group bring festive cheer to Anfield
    http://www.koptalk.org/archive/editor/021204.shtml

    Liverpool FC in £100m talks with L4
    By David Owen and William Hall, The Financial Times
    Published: December 2 2004 02:00 | Last updated: December 2 2004 02:00
    http://news.ft.com/cms/s/0dfd6e7c-4409-11d9-a5eb-00000e2511c8.html

    Just some additional context, but the Krafts were linked with a possible
    takeover and/or investment role in Aston Villa this past March.

    The Magpie
     
  3. budalabutt

    budalabutt Red Card

    Nov 4, 2004
    Chi-town
    I personally think Glazer is a scumb bag and dont want him near soccer. The mayor in Tampa Bay basically said so and so do some of the internal managers of Man U. I hate Man U but I hate jerky Neo-Cons like this jackass is.
     
  4. uclacarlos

    uclacarlos Member+

    Aug 10, 2003
    east coast
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Where are all those nationalist/fascists who were so adamant about Chivas staying out of MLS? Why aren't they complaining about US citizens investing in EPL? :cool:
     
  5. mpruitt

    mpruitt Member

    Feb 11, 2002
    E. Somerville
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    That's unfair. The over riding concern is what is good for the state of the game in the US. Last I checked lots of Man U fans hate the Glazier option, and tons of US fans hate Glazier for not spending his money domestically to have an MLS team in Tampa Bay. Furthermore, the first freakin response to this thread was... 'Wow, Bob Kraft has an interest in soccer?' I'm sure many people, like myself even, are very thankfull to the Kraft family's contribution to MLS so far. However, they'll be plenty on these boards who I'm sure will be plenty ticked off at the way the Revs get treated finacialy if he suddenly finds the money to go off and buy a big name foreign team that apparently isn't exactly a sure thing finacial windfall.
     
  6. The Cadaver

    The Cadaver It's very quiet here.

    Oct 24, 2000
    La Cañada, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Great. Lets have a political litmus test for ownership of a soccer team.

    How about season tickets? Are neo-cons permitted to buy season tickets?
     
  7. budalabutt

    budalabutt Red Card

    Nov 4, 2004
    Chi-town
    Treated how?? He turned them into self sustaining organization. They took some painful neccessary steps to achieve a solid foundation forw where they can build from financially.

    As far as I am concerned they are treated just fine.
     
  8. DoctorD

    DoctorD Member+

    Sep 29, 2002
    MidAtlantic
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Don't worry. They'll all be posting as soon as Bob Kraft announces Liverpool will only field a team of Americans.
     
  9. mpruitt

    mpruitt Member

    Feb 11, 2002
    E. Somerville
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Well you can go by the Rev's board and see what most people say, in just about every thread unfortunately. I'm more apt to agree with you than not, which makes me in the minority. However, given the depleted Revs attendance many Revs fans feel that Kraft's finacial commitment has not been on par with other owners in the league. They feel that has been demonstrated in the game day expierence, previous years' promotion and marketing or lack there of, and perpetually being at best the Pats' little brothers and at worse a tax write off.
     
  10. mpruitt

    mpruitt Member

    Feb 11, 2002
    E. Somerville
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Just keep the politics out of it Stewey.
     
  11. budalabutt

    budalabutt Red Card

    Nov 4, 2004
    Chi-town
    You got it baby!!! ;)
     
  12. soccerfan

    soccerfan BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 13, 1999
    New Jersey
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    THAT IS A GOOD ONE, HEY CARLOS
     
  13. soccerfan

    soccerfan BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 13, 1999
    New Jersey
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    is Liverpool a money making club ?

    if so it would make sense to buy them, and turn around invest the profits back in MLS/Revs

    then we will love the Krafts
     
  14. EL MONO MARIO

    EL MONO MARIO Member

    Apr 9, 2002
    Montevideo, Uruguay
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    NOTE: I didn't read anything just the title.

    The Krafts should try and make the REV's into something before going to England and tanking a world famous team. :p
     
  15. mpruitt

    mpruitt Member

    Feb 11, 2002
    E. Somerville
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    According to this article they aren't.
    I'm sure you could argue in some ways they might be a better investment than Man U with the buy low sell high theory, but it's obviously not the same finacial caliber of Man U.
     
  16. Brownswan

    Brownswan New Member

    Jun 30, 1999
    Port St. Lucie, FL
    A$$holes never notice their own stink.
     
  17. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    'Pool is probably building a new 60,000+ seat stadium (hopefully with an artificial pitch that they can share with Everton) that will brighten up their financial picture considerably.
     
  18. WHOLMAN2

    WHOLMAN2 New Member

    Dec 4, 2000
    Lahs Angeleez
    Agreed, to a degree. Fixing the Revs won't help the Krafts make money until SUM starts making money. Maybe the Krafts would like to make some money with a soccer team for a change. A great move on multiple levels if it goes through.
     
  19. bbsbt

    bbsbt Member+

    Feb 26, 2003
    From the article:
    "He[Kraft] is on the board of directors for several organizations, including the U.S. Soccer Federation..."


    That's not a typo, is it?
     
  20. Bob Morocco

    Bob Morocco Member+

    Aug 11, 2003
    Billings, MT
    No wonder they always get a WCQ game per round.
     
  21. FuzzyForeigner

    Oct 29, 2003
    WA
    Club:
    Seattle
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    those of you who are mulling over the fact that american business men are now interested in sports are wasting your time. They are pure business men that see and opportunity and jump on it to maximizre their profit. They are not soccer fans at all and probably wont go to a Man U or Liverpool game...

    so whats the fuss?

    However I am with the MAN U and Liverpool fans if they dont want the takovers..
     
  22. Northside Rovers

    Jan 28, 2000
    Austin TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Kraft not a sports fan?

    How do you explain the fact that he was a Patriots season ticket holder years before he bought the team?

    I grant you, many sports team owners may have had no previous experience running a sports team and/or they may not have grown up supporting the team they now own - but to say they are not interested in the sport or are not fans of the sport is false.

    If ALL they were interested in was making money - there are better ways to do it than owning a sports team.

    I actually hope Kraft is behind this. It shows a true interest in the sport - something not always clearly evident, and it can only strengthen the clout of the Revs and MLS - unless Liverpool starst losing money in boat loads.
     
  23. mpruitt

    mpruitt Member

    Feb 11, 2002
    E. Somerville
    Club:
    New England Revolution
  24. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is Kraft saying that they're going to require players to say "great" instead of "brilliant" and write "color" instead of "colour" and have an American flavor to their game?

    Don't be stupid. I know you're not stupid, but this was a stupid post, Carlos.
     
  25. The Magpie

    The Magpie Member

    Nov 19, 1998
    Cambridge, MA
    Robert Kraft has been a Patriots season ticket holder since 1971, back when he had cheap seats freezing his ass to the old aluminum bleachers in Foxboro Stadium. He bought the club in 1994 for about $170 million dollars, this when people were saying he shouldn't have spent $100 million, and prevented his favorite team from moving to St. Louis.

    Ten years later, and this after paying up over $300 million out of his own pocket to build a new stadium, the team's been to three Super Bowls, won two of them, has one of the best (if not the best) business operation in the league, and last I could find (and this according to Forbes magazine), the club had an estimated value a shade over $860 million dollars.

    The person you are describing above does not in any way, shape, or form describe Robert Kraft. Maybe someone like Malcom Glazer, or others who are in it as to satisfy their ego, and not their passion for the game.

    The Magpie

    P.S. Take a moment as ask yourselves this: with his resources, and all the clubs in the world, why has he been specifically linked to Liverpool and Aston Villa? Why not Real Madrid, Juventus, or Manchester United?
     

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