Kinda feel bad for the Iraq Musuem?

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by Kappa18, Apr 19, 2003.

  1. Kappa18

    Kappa18 New Member

    Aug 9, 2002
    Toronto, Canada
    Club:
    Beitar Jerusalem FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Israel
    I dont know, but i kinda feel bad about what happened with the looting in Iraq's Musuem!!

    The thing that were there were priceless, from ancient Mesopotamia, and i think they needed to have been preserved :(

    I just don't know how people can loot something sp pricelessand unique!!
    Wheres the Musuems security gaurds?!?!?!
     
  2. Excape Goat

    Excape Goat Member+

    Mar 18, 1999
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Some people think it was a planned attack. The looters were organized.... they said the looters went straight for the most valuable items(targeted items) where normal people had little knowledge of.
     
  3. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Excape, you have a few elements of the story right, but you've put them together like a Picasso painting.

    Try again.
     
  4. Sardinia

    Sardinia New Member

    Oct 1, 2002
    Sardinia, Italy, EU
    $$$$$$$$$$
     
  5. Kappa18

    Kappa18 New Member

    Aug 9, 2002
    Toronto, Canada
    Club:
    Beitar Jerusalem FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Israel
    Re: Re: Kinda feel bad for the Iraq Musuem?


    Probably there is some Art work in Sardina's home!!! :D

    Lets go and check that one out!
     
  6. MLSNHTOWN

    MLSNHTOWN Member+

    Oct 27, 1999
    Houston, TX
    Well there is some speculation that it was more planned than just widespread looting.
     
  7. DJPoopypants

    DJPoopypants New Member

    Wait - looting artifacts is good for the world economy, no?

    The items will be purchased by some people for lots of $ instead of sitting in a stuffy musuem. So rich people will spend cash for them, cash that is sent back into the underground economy, but its still spent.

    So it a small part of pulling the world out of global recession - awarding those capitalists with daring and initiative. That's good, no?

    Then these rich folk will have parties to show off their new "treasures", which will require lots more champagne and caviar and foie gras.

    So dammit, LiveFreeorDie was right - the French are winning this one!
     
  8. Ian McCracken

    Ian McCracken Member

    May 28, 1999
    USA
    Club:
    SS Lazio Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    This is the most overblown story of the war. These items are priceless when sitting in a museum but worthless when stolen. It's not like you can go out and sell these products on eBay. All these artifacts will turn up soon, when the idiot looters realize their mistake.
     
  9. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    99.9% of artifacts stolen during Gulf War I have not been recovered.
     
  10. fishbiproduct

    fishbiproduct New Member

    Mar 29, 2002
    Pasadena Ca.

    You obviously don't know anything about
    any of this ( not surprising because, as I recall,
    you called what was stolen "things"):

    These "items" are worth a lot of money to
    people who have...a lot of money and just
    want to have them in their home.

    Argue with me if you wish, but I know this
    market very, very well.
     
  11. Ian McCracken

    Ian McCracken Member

    May 28, 1999
    USA
    Club:
    SS Lazio Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    If there is no resale value on the open market then the "things" are worthless. 99.99% of art investors will have nothing to do with stolen products and you cannot even market these things to this group. Thus, they are worthless. The TV in your living room has value because you can resell it to your neighbors. The fact is that much of this stuff were replicas as Saddam has been selling off the real deal for over a decade. It was also an inside job:

    1. Museum employees could evacuate artifacts in 24 hours.

    2. Pentagon said no protection would be forthcoming prior to U.S. entering Baghdad so Museum curators knew.

    3. Looters had keys.

    4. Do the math.
     
  12. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    Of course, but Ian doesn't care about any of this except how it relates to the USA. It's just an American PR issue
     
  13. Dan Loney

    Dan Loney BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 10, 2000
    Cincilluminati
    Club:
    Los Angeles Sol
    Nat'l Team:
    Philippines
    There was no place to go, what with the city under siege. Assuming your rather optimistic 24 hour deadline holds up -

    Where did you read this?

    "Give us the keys or we'll kill you" is how I read the conversation went.

    Also, if it's an inside job, running to the Army and asking for protection is kind of, well, counterproductive.

    I will if you will.

    This "inside job" is CYA drivel. There are pictures of looters, the Library was burnt down afterwards - the military could have prevented nearly all of the damage, and most of the theft. They didn't.

    If the cult could just admit that the junta occasionally makes mistakes...but then, if they could, they wouldn't be a cult, and there wouldn't be a junta, so there you go.
     
  14. SoFla Metro

    SoFla Metro Member

    Jul 21, 2000
    Ft. Lauderdale, FL
    Will they turn up before or after we find bin Laden and Hussein?
     
  15. Ian McCracken

    Ian McCracken Member

    May 28, 1999
    USA
    Club:
    SS Lazio Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Oh yeah, it's not like they didn't have FOURTEEN MONTHS advance warning that Baghdad would be invaded. I don't want to shock you here, but this was not a surprise attack.
     
  16. Dan Loney

    Dan Loney BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 10, 2000
    Cincilluminati
    Club:
    Los Angeles Sol
    Nat'l Team:
    Philippines
    ...but I thought Bush hadn't made up his mind until...I thought if Saddam destroyed his WMD then....

    Actually, I agree. Bush decided to invade Iraq long before Karl Rove brought it up in August of 2002. There was no reason for it, of course, and everything anyone in the administration said about Iraq from March 2002 onward has been a total lie, but that's okay. We got a crowd of dozens flown in from Washington to cheer a statue falling over, so it was all worth it.

    Of course, how Baghdad museum curators were supposed to know top secret intentions kept from the freaking Security Council, let alone Congress and the American people, is beyond me.
     
  17. joseph pakovits

    joseph pakovits New Member

    Apr 29, 1999
    fly-over country
    On the plus side, my new antique Gilgamesh statue will look stunning on my end table.
     
  18. Matrim55

    Matrim55 Member+

    Aug 14, 2000
    Berkeley
    Club:
    Connecticut
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sigfile.
     

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