Ki Sung-Yong @ Celtic FC 2009-2010 [R]

I cast my vote for him to leave.©
He looks unsettled but on the other hand actually staying and fighting for a spot would build some mental fortitude.
Hard to say really.

 

I think after seeing Lee Chung Yong, most teams will be willing to take a chance on Korean players. Sitting on the bench at Celtic won't help, and I doubt this new guy Lennon will be much more of an improvement if they thought Mowbray was emphasizing an "expansive" and "passing" game. I think SPL just doesn't really suit Ki's strengths.

 

Pffftt...Mowbray is a joke. Ive tried to keep a lid on it and give the guy and the team the benefit of the doubt. This is beyond disappointing to me. I hope no more Koreans are fooled into being led by this guy in his next stint. If this turns into another KDH incident I might lose it here.

This situation is horrible for Ki in my book. Chances are he's going to show up to South Africa sharp as a bowling ball. More importantly, careerwise this has the potential of burying him under the carpet.

 

I wasn't aware that I was getting bent out of shape. I thought I had asked a simple question regarding one of your posts.

Anyhow, I was querying your wild generalistion that playing for Celtic is akin to football career suicide. When I asked you to expand on this you then used Nakamura as an example.

Are you suggesting that Nakamura's career went downhill when he left Reggina for Celtic? Or are we talking about his subsequent move to Spain? If it's the latter then I don't buy into the argument that the SPL ruined his career. There have been more than a few players with a similar physique to Naka who performed well in Scotland and remained relatively injury free. McGeady is an example. Lubo Moravcik also springs immediately to mind.

McGeady isn't having the best of seasons but are we to believe that his career has been a constant struggle and he hasn't improved during his time with the club? Did Stilian Petrov not improve as a player when he joined from CSKA Sofia at the tender age of 20? Has Artur Boruc not improved since being at the club?

I'm not suggesting for a minute that Celtic are Scotland's version of Ajax but to suggest that a young player has blown it by joining the club seems like a huge reach to me.

I agree with that. We sit at home matches and wonder why we would continue to bypass the midfield and play long, high balls up the park for Keane to compete for. It made no sense. I can understand using that tactic on a poor pitch but the surface at Celtic Park is of a very high standard.

There's no excuse for it. And therein lies the main reason why Tony Mowbray has gone. His style of play left fans, and I'd imagine players, bewildered. His tactical ability was called into question repeatedly due to dubious and strange substitutions. On Wednesday when we were 2-0 down it looked like we were trying to play a 3-1-6. What kind of formation is that in todays modern game?

I've always liked Tony Mowbray as a person and I'd hoped he'd succeed as manager of Celtic but it's been a disaster for the most part.

I understand your reservations and I have no way of knowing what Neil Lennon is thinking but don't think that because of his style of play when he had his boots on that he doesn't appreciate good footballers.

I read an interview with Koki Mizuno about 4-5mths ago and although he has struggled to make any sort of impact at the club the person that he stated as helping him out the most was Neil Lennon.

I'm actually looking forward to going to the match on Saturday. It'll be interesting to see what sort of team he picks and how they play. I'm expecting a big, big improvement over Wednesday. Although it couldn't really get much worse. Could it...?

 

Neil Lennon and Johan Mjällby as new managers I hear?

 

Our previous two managers, as I include Gordon Strachan in this, have had rather strange views on how best to deploy their midfielders.

Donati was, for want of a better expression, a poor mans Andrea Pirlo. He liked to get the ball off the defence and build from that position. He could spray some lovely cross field passes about the pitch. And yet, GS signed him and proceeded to play him as a box to box midfielder.

Maybe having Lennon in, even in a temporary role, may see some semblance of normality return to Celtic's midfield area.

 

Celtic won 3-1 vs. Kilmarnock but Ki didn't make it on the pitch.

 

A player of Ki's quality not playing is absolutely ridiculous. He needs to get out of there.

 

Panic much?

 

Nope, I just worry©

 

got out of lurking for this.
going back to lurking

 

I'm not the type to panic, but this is a World Cup year my friend. =D

 

agreed. If this wasn't a world cup year, I think we would all be more patient about his playing time and match fitness.

 

Ki's mentality/confidence as well. It would be ideal if he went to SA brimming with confidence but now who knows? He's a young guy, probably mature for his age but I wonder if he's questioning himself now.

 

What's the point in all this panic now? He made the Celtic move in mid-season, knowing that he'll be in for a transitional period. Leaving Celtic isn't even a possibility until after the WC, so this is a moot concern.

This whole talk about how he's too good for Celtic is laughable.

 

I for one never said Ki was too good for Celtic, but rather raised the opposite question of whether Celtic is too good or has too much depth for Ki to break in, considering where he is as a player right now. Therefore I think it's also valid to question whether going to Celtic was the right move considering that it is a World Cup year and we need Ki to be sharp come June.

If anyone said what you pointed out Sky, I'd be quick to dismiss their claims also. The whole 'Lee to Liverpool' rumor has become somewhat of an embarrassment also.

 

i completely agree with you.

 

I wonder who that Jk guy is from the Bolton forum. I'm pretty sure he posts here.

 

Ki didn't make the wrong move. He would have been on the bench in any other league. As I indicated before, he should have been keeping somewhat fit, if he was expecting to join a club in the middle of its season.

 

I'm a japanese supporter but still...I think Ki is naturally has more potential than Nakamura. More naturally talented than everyone on the celtic side.

They bought Mizuno, Zheng Zhi and Ki Sung Yueng all for shirt sales I'm afraid. He needs to get out right away.

Why are asian players going to the SPL it pretty much stands for all the opposites of an east asian player's strength.

 

Either the shirt sales or they need help with the Chinese/Japanese/Korean restaurant they want to open @ Parkhead.

 

why is it ki sung YUENG? makes it look like his from hong kong and sh1t