Kenny Mansally: Waived

Discussion in 'New England Revolution' started by Stumpy Kelderman, May 4, 2012.

  1. Stumpy Kelderman

    Oct 12, 2004
  2. NFLPatriot

    NFLPatriot Member+

    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And thus ends our streak of 38 days with a full 28-man roster.

    One more step away from the Nicol era, I guess.
     
  3. ftruscot

    ftruscot Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    Franklin, MA
    Not surprised it would happen considering his lack of inclusion in the 18, but the timing is odd unless they need the spot to bring someone off of the DL. Might be awkward for the two Gambian friends if one is waived so the other can take a spot on the roster.

    Anyway, Mansally is not a forward. He is comical when trying to play with his back to the goal and makes very unconvincing runs from there. As a wing, he's average. Average speed, average crosses, average sense of play. Perhaps I am being a little kind to him. He definitely doesn't have the skills to play in the narrow, technical "outside" midfield position that Heaps has been using (Nguyen, Feilhaber, Rowe, Guy, Cardenas) and he doesn't have the speed or 1v1 skills to be an effective shake-up wing when we need to open a defense by pressuring wide or winning the baseline. (Guy, Cardenas, Purdie, and Nyassi probably do it better).

    I've thought for a while that if he was to find a place on this squad it would be by studying to be a left back and pushing Tierney, but that would take time for him to become MLS-ready at that position, and I'm not sure he could successfully make the transition.

    So, Good Luck, Kenny. I hope you find a place where you can contribute.
     
  4. alter

    alter Member

    Mar 19, 2012
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He had a few showings last season where he displayed promise as an impact sub at forward but he would instantly regress in his next appearance. If he had half of Diego's soccer IQ, he could've challenged Runstrom's spot on the depth chart but he logged way too many minutes last year to not find the back of the net once.
     
  5. CottageRev

    CottageRev Member+

    Jun 13, 2010
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    I've had the same thought for a while too - Mansally was a decent defender from the midfield and was definitely faster than Tierney. I was wondering why nobody ever had the thought to teach him the LB position.

    I liked him too and hope he can catch on with another MLS team, or keep his career going somehow.

    Regarding the actual roster move, they get some allocation money for only having a 27-man roster, are the looking to clear space for *gasp* a summer transfer?
     
  6. ftruscot

    ftruscot Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    Franklin, MA
    They get a small amount of allocation for keeping the roster at 28 or below (thirty is the max, but a team can agree to only carry 28 in return for the extra allocation money). They have two people on the DL that would need a roster spot when it's time to bring them off. However, of the two, I'd take Mansally over Boggs (no salary implications considered) and would have a debate between he and Nyassi, but would take Nyassi over Mansally because of the speed factor. I think it's as simple as this.
     
  7. Minutemanii

    Minutemanii Member+

    Dec 29, 2005
    Abington MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not surprised..... Bye bye, Kenny. Wish you the best.
     
  8. eric_appleby

    eric_appleby Member+

    Jun 11, 1999
    Down East
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Best of luck Kenny. I was hopeful he and Nyassi were going to be the future of this team. But after some initial success as teenagers in MLS they both plateaued at an insufficient level.
     
  9. Argyle

    Argyle Member

    Jan 31, 2002
    Plymouth, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just my gut, but I think Nyassi won't be with the team for much longer.
     
  10. s0ccerguy

    s0ccerguy Member

    Mar 25, 2004
    I would think that just means that either Boggs or Nyassi are coming back healthy from the IR list, not that they're signing anybody. From the injury lists it looks like Nyassi will be back first which would be awkward if he essentially took Mansally's spot on the team.
     
  11. Autogolazo

    Autogolazo BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 19, 2000
    Bombay Beach, CA
    I still have "the shirt off his back" hanging in my closet from 2010. On a clear day, when the wind's just right, you can still smell the Vicks vapo rub just above the logo....
     
  12. Jon Martin

    Jon Martin Member+

    Apr 25, 2000
    SE Mass
    I always liked Kenny, and he'll always be a Rev to me, but it's time to move on.
     
  13. a517dogg

    a517dogg Member+

    Oct 30, 2005
    Rochester, NY
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    He was exciting to watch when he was playing well. With his development, I can't help but remember the comment a few months ago that a player (I forget which one) made about how it's amazing to have Heaps as a coach because he shows young players what they should be doing instead of leaving them to fend for themselves like Nicol apparently did. I think Mansally and Nyassi (and Alston) could have been much much better with better development coaching. It's a shame.
     
  14. rkupp

    rkupp Member+

    Jan 3, 2001
    Could be to open a spot for Kevin Garcia.

    He was trialing with the team a while back after finishing school, but I haven't heard anything since.

    We could use another defender, especially if he's versatile enough to play outside as well as in. With Lechner out and Alston often "questionable", we're forced into bad (Barnes outside) choices.
     
  15. firstshirt

    firstshirt Member+

    Bayern München
    United States
    Mar 1, 2000
    Ellington, CT / NK, RI
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Very possible, Garcia played in a reserve match on April 9th. Not sure about the last one but if they saw enough of him and liked him chances are that is the next move. From what I can recall the Revs have never waived anyone recently and not had a signing a few days after
     
  16. ftruscot

    ftruscot Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    Franklin, MA
    I doubt they would sign Kevin Garcia (a supplemental pick) to a senior roster spot (vacated by Mansally). I think Mansally was waived to make room for Nyassi to come off the DL soon. If they sign Garcia, it will involve movement at the low end of the roster.
     
  17. Achowat

    Achowat Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Revere, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Y'know, say what you want about his style of play, but he went out there any time he was asked and did all he could to put the ball in the net. It wasn't much, but the kid played his heart out. I enjoyed watching him (and Nyassi, and yes, I know that it's racist to keep bundling the two of them) in the same way I enjoy watching the Revs, in general. I know I'm going to be frustrated by the missed chances, but that just makes the rare instances of quality play all the sweeter.

    An obvious legend from the Shit Revs Era (2007-present)
     
  18. rkupp

    rkupp Member+

    Jan 3, 2001
    To me, he never really showed the potential that Nyassi did. They may both end up with the same fate, but in the offseason, it sure sounded like Heaps had some ideas for Nyassi. The big problem for him, when he finally gets fit again, is that minutes are hard to come by. Presumably both Guy and forgotten man White, will return at some point.
     
  19. sputnikorbust

    sputnikorbust Member

    Apr 9, 2011
    Somerville
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  20. Revolution909

    Revolution909 Member

    Mar 28, 2011
    Rumford, RI
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree. It does seem that with Nicol, either you came up and had it, or you didn't. Those who had it succeeded and those who didn't were cut. Maybe some of the veterans helped out (Like Ralston yelling at Nyassi). There seemed to be very little emphasis on player development. That being said, imagine what Mansally or Nyassi could have become in a different system, like RSL?

    Mansally, however, is still really young. He still has plenty of time to figure out the game. He isn't a lost cause & I'm sure he will benefit from another system.
     
  21. BrianLBI

    BrianLBI BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 7, 2002
    New Hampshire
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Ralston remark seems appropriate. In fact, while following the reserve match on Twitter the other day, when I read that Mansally was in the match, I figured Stevie had a hand in bringing Kenny to Houston for trial. I forgot that the MLS reserve division schedule is based on a random number generator...
     
  22. firstshirt

    firstshirt Member+

    Bayern München
    United States
    Mar 1, 2000
    Ellington, CT / NK, RI
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    According to the DC board, trail is over and no contract offered
     
  23. rkupp

    rkupp Member+

    Jan 3, 2001
    I vehemently disagree.

    Nicol was among the best in MLS at developing young players (that doesn't mean he was able to succeed with all of them). In fact, I think his reputation for drafting was overstated because his ability in development was underestimated. There is a long list of examples of players who flourished under his coaching, which only serves to understate the few who seemed to have potential, yet stagnated.
     
  24. firstshirt

    firstshirt Member+

    Bayern München
    United States
    Mar 1, 2000
    Ellington, CT / NK, RI
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    he was o for 4 in developing young talent from Africa
     
  25. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The few? All the Africans? A stretch of failed first round picks? Most of the second round picks?
     

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