Kellyn Acosta Drawing European Interest

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad Academy' started by ussoccer97531, Jul 11, 2017.

  1. chalaron

    chalaron Member+

    Aug 15, 2006
    Baton Rouge, Louisia
    So you think every tier 1 & tier 2 league in Europe is better than Liga MX? I would say MX is top 15 in the world and possibly top 10.
     
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  2. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Would PSV drop 3-4 million for him? Cause we then might see a Sunderland drop 6 million and Dallas take that with a big grin.
     
  3. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
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    --other--
    MLS Transfers is correct sometimes.
     
  4. It's impossible to compare leagues when clubs donot compete with each other in international cup matches..
     
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  5. EricSunRa

    EricSunRa Member

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Sep 29, 2007
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    With some imagination, I'm sure we can do it ;)
     
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  6. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    I suspect Dallas will take $2M with big grin.
     
  7. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He's still not at the amount to get a UK work permit automatically.

    Over the past 2 years from today, the USMNT has played 24 competitive games outside of friendlies (6 in the WCQ 4th round, 6 in the Hex so far, 6 in the Gold Cup, and 6 at the Copa America).

    Kellyn has played in 9 of these games - so roughly 38%.

    Under the current rule, the number of games a non-EU player must have played in for his national team to get a UK WP are listed here

    So if Kellyn plays in the final 4 hex games, that will take his % up to 46.5%. If the U.S. team can climb into the top 30, then he'll still be 13% short.

    So he'd have to go through an appeal which is harder these days
     
  8. Ceres

    Ceres Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Aarhus, Denmark
    Club:
    AGF Aarhus
    Nat'l Team:
    Denmark
    FC København just made it to the Champions League play-off's, which will secure them at least $8 million from UEFA and so they will now be trying to sign one or two reinforcements and they could surely use a talented hard working box-to-box midfielder right now ... regarding FCK transfer fees, they are usually in the range of $1.5 million going no higher than $2.4 million... as written elsewhere, FCK already got 19 players earning a minimum $480k or more a year... so i guess that would be equivalent to 19 designated players in MLS ...
     
  9. Where do you get that 8 million number from?
     
  10. Ceres

    Ceres Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Aarhus, Denmark
    Club:
    AGF Aarhus
    Nat'l Team:
    Denmark
    #60 Ceres, Aug 2, 2017
    Last edited: Aug 2, 2017
    You get a minimum $8 million bonus from UEFA if you reach the CL play-off's ... if only one Scandinavan team (and both Norway and Sweden are out) manage to actually qualify for CL it will be in the range of $25 millions to $32 millions depending on if they manage to progress from the CL group stage to the later stages of the Europa League, which is the most realistic to hope for ...
     
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  11. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    they must be rolling in some dough. haven't they qualified for the CL for like 4 of the past 6/7 years ?

    I gotta imagine a PL club would simply buy him and then loan him to the Eredivisie or Belgium league for a year or 2.
     
  12. Ceres

    Ceres Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Aarhus, Denmark
    Club:
    AGF Aarhus
    Nat'l Team:
    Denmark
    well .. Dutch teams share the Dutch market pool, Scottish teams share the Scottish market pool and so it's the same for Portugal and other countries ... while Scandinavia has a shared market pool ... so if one Dutch team qualify for the CL group stage, they get less money in compare with one Scandinavian team qualifying for the CL, because FC København then also get the Swedish and Norwegian share ...
     
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  13. Gilma1990

    Gilma1990 Member+

    Jul 30, 2015
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would actually rank the leagues in the following order....

    La Liga
    Bundesliga
    EPL
    Serie A
    Ligue 1
    Portugal
    Holland
    Liga MX
     
  14. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
    Club:
    Levski Sofia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Huh?

    Liga MX isn't even top 3 in the Americas and their best regularly get knocked out of the CWC by the likes of Evergrande, Auckland City, Raja Casablanca, Kashiwa Reysol, etc.

    Puh-lease.
     
  15. Gacm32

    Gacm32 Member+

    Chelsea
    Switzerland
    Nov 28, 2010
    Geneva
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Umm, I think Argentina and Brazil are the only other leagues in the Americas that are comparable. Colombia has a decent league, with some good sides, but it's not really strong top to bottom.
     
  16. I think you are mixing things up. The qualification round is the match you have to play to get into the CL group stage, which will pay the big bonuses. You havenot got anything yet, because you have to beat a very strong opponent yet to get into the final 32 clubs for the group stage. The money payed by the UEFA to the clubs in the qualification rounds are per match a few hundred thousands, so I wonder where you get that 8 million figure from. UEFA for sure isnot paying that to clubs in the final play off match for the CL spots.
    From wiki:
    https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Champions_League_2017/18
    Geplaatst

    Ongeplaatst
     
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  17. #67 feyenoordsoccerfan, Aug 3, 2017
    Last edited: Aug 3, 2017
    Do you look up something before you post it down here?
    This is the outcome for 2014 - 2015. Ajax was the only Dutch club in the group stage as is FC Malmö from the Scandinavian market pool.
    Ajax received 11,679,000€€ and Malmö 7,405,000 €€.
    There is a reason why the market pool for the Scandinavian countries are bundled and that is because they are tiny, even compared to the Dutch market. The Dutch market pool is way bigger than the combined Scandinavian.

    How UEFA Distributed Prize Money In 2014-15 Champions League Season:
    Following table shows how all the 32 participating teams were paid in prize money, performance bonus and market pool money.

    Please click on the image below to zoomin

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    For this CL edition after the elimination of Ajax, Feyenoord is cashing in the total market pool for the Dutch league, being at least 11 million plus the participation bonus of about 12,7 million. Given the fact that we will face only clubs with top rankings in the Group stage I'm not counting on much extra for points won (1.5 million a win, 0.5 million a draw).
    So Feyenoord will at least cash 22 million.
    Edit: the new arrangement that siphons money off to the top 5 leagues has cut back the money for Feyenoord to an estimated 9 million.
    So Feyenoord can cash for sure around 20 million.
     
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  18. Ceres

    Ceres Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Aarhus, Denmark
    Club:
    AGF Aarhus
    Nat'l Team:
    Denmark
    #68 Ceres, Aug 3, 2017
    Last edited: Aug 3, 2017
    To get more specific ... this season you get a €2 million bonus if you progress from the CL play-off's to the CL group stage while the eliminated team get €3 million ... and obviously the eliminated team then automatically has qualified for the Europa league group stage which then earn them a guaranteed participation bonus of €2.6 million no matter if they finish last in the EL group stage ... or in other words, the CL play-off's will earn you a minimum €5.6 million bonus = around $6.6 million not adding the TV market pool share or any UEFA performance bonus (or ticket and other income for the home games).

    if you add the Scandinavian market pool to the participation bonus, it will be around $8 million for the Europa league group stage participation, obviously it will be more if you also add a performance bonus and other home game income.


    You are quoting old figures from 2014-15 ... figures that change from year to year ...
    If you progress from the play-off's and qualify for the CL group stage, then you get the €2 million play-off bonus + a guaranteed CL participation bonus of €12.7 million = around $17.5 million, but still not counting the TV market pool share or any UEFA performance bonus or other home game income... last season FCK got around $32 million in total bonus + market pool for their participation from UEFA, this season it will most surely be more, if they get as far as last season ... the actual value of this years market pool is unknown at this point in time ...
     
  19. @Ceres You keep mixing numbers from CL and EL. I cannot find the numbers you quote from FCK. So please give us the precise numbers from the CL, apart from the EL ones.
     
  20. UnitedBorn

    UnitedBorn Member+

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  21. beerslinger23

    beerslinger23 Member+

    Jun 26, 2010
    Kellyn did not look poor in 1v1 defending vs. some monster attackers like Benzema or sometimes Bale. He did play LB at the U20 WC and was a little ragged but did the job. Maybe he is the solution and we can get a more mature CM in there for the short run;perhaps this stopgap measure would work the rest of the cycle. I like Acosta as LB way more than at DM or CM or any midfield role where the ball has to go through him.
     
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  22. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Acosta stated he'd rather leave now to get time in pre-season for clubs in Europe but isn't their pre-season just about over?
     
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  23. Indeed, the first leagues are starting the next weekend. So fitting in at the end of the preparation period is going to be very difficult, especially when you're not accustomed to the European way of play. Tuning of the teams and getting the players into a play together routine has been done the month of July. Now it is performance time and any late comer hops behind the crew as no one is going to spend time accomodating you, unless you're name is Neymar.
     
  24. Ceres

    Ceres Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Aarhus, Denmark
    Club:
    AGF Aarhus
    Nat'l Team:
    Denmark
    #74 Ceres, Aug 3, 2017
    Last edited: Aug 3, 2017
    The CL Play-off bonus is either €2 million for the winner (that then also secure a guaranteed CL participation bonus of €12.7 million) or €3 million for the eliminated team :
    http://www.totalsportek.com/money/uefa-champions-league-prize-money/

    The eliminated team from the CL play-off's go directly to the Europa League group stage, where they get a guaranteed participation bonus of €2.6 million no matter how they do :

    http://www.totalsportek.com/money/europa-league-prize-money/

    .So when you qualify for the CL play'off's you are sure to get a minimum €3 million + €2.6 million = €5.6 million + EL TV market pool share ... so roughly a minimum $8 million for FCK ...on top of this you can add UEFA performance bonus and other home game income, like food, beer and ticket sales ...
     
  25. No ... the CL Play-off bonus is either €2 million for the winner (that then also secure a guaranteed CL participation bonus of €12.7 million) or €3 million for the eliminated team :
    http://www.totalsportek.com/money/uefa-champions-league-prize-money/

    The eliminated team from the CL play-off's go directly to the Europa League group stage, where they get a guaranteed participation bonus of €2.6 million no matter how they do :

    http://www.totalsportek.com/money/europa-league-prize-money/

    .So when you qualify for the CL play'off's you are sure to get a minimum €3 million + €2.6 million = 5.6 million + TV market pool share ... so roughly $8 million for FCK ...on top of this you can add UEFA performance bonus and and other home game income, like food, beer and ticket sales ...[/QUOTE]
    Ah, okay clear. Thanks.
     

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