Kellerman -- SENT OFF. Next: CueBall and Kornholio?

Discussion in 'Business and Media' started by TOTC, Feb 20, 2004.

  1. TOTC

    TOTC Member

    Feb 20, 2001
    Laurel, MD, USA
    Seems Around The Horn has been nuked, and Max Kellerman is moving to Fox Sports Net for a daily show.

    Would it be that the sports talk shows get bumped for (shock! awe!) Real Sporting Events? And we're not talking poker, judo or cheerleading!
     
  2. skipshady

    skipshady New Member

    Apr 26, 2001
    Orchard St, NYC
    My guess is that ESPN will show whatever they think will reach whatever demographic group they're targeting, "Real Sporting Event" or not. "Around The Horn" wasn't doing that, but PTI seems to be doing just fine.
     
  3. TheSlipperyOne

    TheSlipperyOne Member+

    Feb 29, 2000
    Denver
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Re: Re: Kellerman -- SENT OFF. Next: CueBall and Kornholio?

    They just celebrated their 500th episode.
     
  4. unclesox

    unclesox BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 8, 2003
    209, California
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    I'll miss Kellerman's boastful opinions on FNF.
     
  5. GoneinUS

    GoneinUS New Member

    Jun 26, 2001
    St. Cloud, MN
    Is Around the Horn actually cancelled? I couldn't find anything about that. I do know that Kellerman is supposedly going to Fox Sports, but I have heard nothing about ATH being canned.
     
  6. monster

    monster Member

    Oct 19, 1999
    Hanover, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Considering that PTI is one of the reasons Tony is leaving his radio show, I think you're wrong.
     
  7. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Has PTI done more than any other entity to make Freddy Adu a mainstream sports story?

    Discuss.
     
  8. Thomas A Fina

    Thomas A Fina Member

    Mar 29, 1999
    Hell
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A) Don't diss PTI. Kornheiser and especially WIlbon give more air time to soccer than most

    B) ATH is still on, but the host is now the "Stat Boy" from PTI

    C) Kellerman is a boxing guy. No more, no less. He was great for Friday Night Fights, but I don't think he can hack it as a catch-all sports guy. I hope he focuses on boxing, there are so few advocates for it out there.
     
  9. SoccerNova2009

    SoccerNova2009 New Member

    Aug 19, 2000
    probably at a bar
    Kellerman is going to Fox Sports Net to do a daily talk show and he will also be on their Sunday Night Fights series replacing Rich Marotta. The great Barry Tompkins will be back on blow by blow. Should be an interesting pairing. Don't know if Sean O'Grady will also be back.

    I'll miss Max on Friday Night Fights, but he seems to be getting out at the right time since ESPN is not committed to boxing and seems to be, whether purposefully or not, killing off their coverage of the sport. I used to really enjoy the show and of course still watch it but it has become more of struggle each week. They didn't get a decent replacement for Bob Papa, the repetitive Teddy Atlas, and the constant pimping of The Ring magazine has made the show a weak imitation of what it once was.
     
  10. mellon002

    mellon002 Member

    Jan 24, 2003
    Towson, MD
    I listen to his show all the time but I missed when he explained why he was leaving. Was that the only reason?

    ESPN needs to dump Around the Horn alltogether. Stat Boy is awful as the man in control. At least Kellerman had a pretty commanding presence behind the joysticks. Try and think of a show that doesn't completely rip off PTI.
     
  11. billyho96

    billyho96 Member

    Aug 16, 2003
    Arkansas
    http://espnradio.espn.go.com/espnradio/show?showId=1058219

    There is a link on TK's page on ESPN radio with the clip from when he announced he was leaving the radio on March 26.

    Mainly he is getting older and wants to still write for the Post and PTI is his big payday. Also, ESPN radio is going with more local programming in major markets. (I have no idea why, yes they may be more popular, but ESPN is a national not local network) Some ESPN radio affilates only play the games and overnite show these days.

    Tony has been pulled in NY, LA, Chicago, and other large markets for some time. He will be back on the radio locally in DC soon.
     
  12. jmeissen0

    jmeissen0 New Member

    Mar 31, 2001
    page 1078
    pti rocks

    i never did like around the horn... don't know why... just don't like the format
     
  13. panicfc

    panicfc Member+

    Dec 22, 2000
    In my chair, typing
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Could it be that Max Kellerman annoys you as much as he does me?
     
  14. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Between him and Jay Mariotti, the Twit-O-Meter reading goes off the scale. And the format, too. It's like watching a high-tech home version of "Let's Play PTI," which as far as I'm concerned renders Around the Horn pointless TV. I mean, it's better than, say, Cold Pizza or Fox's The Best Damn Sports Show Period (which I knew would suck when I saw that Tom Arnold was their go-to guy for non-jock comedy). But in TV terms, that's like being the best alpine skier in Chad.
     
  15. panicfc

    panicfc Member+

    Dec 22, 2000
    In my chair, typing
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    At least the women are good looking on Cold Pizza.

    ==
    How to improve Around the Horn: Get Robin Bakay to host the show and wear skimpy outfits. No other guests needed

    :D
     
  16. skipshady

    skipshady New Member

    Apr 26, 2001
    Orchard St, NYC
    And that's the thing - you can't replicate PTI because the appeal of PTI is in the chemistry between Wilbon and Kornheiser - behind the yelling lie so much humor and insight. And even when one of the two is off on assignment (or suspension, as the case may be), the substitutes tend to be pretty gosh darn good.
     
  17. boffo

    boffo Member

    Aug 6, 2001
    Portland, ME
    I agree completely about Wilbon and Kornheiser but disagree about their subson PTI. In my eyes, they usually don't strike the right balance between humor and insight, either tending to be funny but vapid (eg, Chad) or analytical but humorless or even mean (eg, LeBatard). As a result, I rarely watch anymore if W&K aren't on. Their chemistry is irreplaceable to me.
     
  18. billyho96

    billyho96 Member

    Aug 16, 2003
    Arkansas
    We need to watch. Ratings=viewers=continued programming.

    What else is on at this time slot. Its not like there is anything better to offer on a weekday afternoon.

    ATH is better than nothing, its just fancy talk radio on TV.
     
  19. geordienation

    geordienation Moderator

    Apr 21, 2001
    Chicago
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Disagree.

    Nothing = silence = absence of Kellerman's grating, horrifically stupid voice in my head.


    I'll take nothing.
     
  20. Beau Dure

    Beau Dure Member+

    May 31, 2000
    Vienna, VA
    Isn't doing Around the Horn without Kellerman a bit like The Doors recording without Jim Morrison?

    The joy of ATH is seeing Woody Paige in all his gruff glory lecturing Kellerman and whichever guy the Globe trots out besides Ryan.

    Maybe they should move ATH to Denver and let Woody host. Heck, kick everyone else off and just bring in a guest each day for Woody to bark at.
     
  21. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite Guinness

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    That's all TV does these days. As soon as a show comes along, it's being ripped off. Sad, but true.
     
  22. pupusa3000

    pupusa3000 Member

    May 15, 2001
    East Bay Area
    If you guys check out PTI, when "stat boy" makes corrections towards the end of the show, there is a Manchester United jersey in the background. I also saw a Celtic jersey there a couple a weeks back. I know "stat boy" is not a soccer fan because of some comments he's made on ATH. So somebody behind he show must be a footie fan.
     
  23. okcomputer

    okcomputer Member

    Jun 25, 2003
    dc
    What has stat boy said in the past that makes you think he doesnt like soccer?
     
  24. stevewhit0

    stevewhit0 New Member

    Jun 26, 2001
    Champaign, IL
    I don't really remember what he said, but I have heard him talk about soccer a few times and it’s never anything positive. He may respect soccer a little, but I don’t think he likes soccer at all. I use to like him as stat boy but I just find him annoying on the Horn. It's not a bad job for his first host job. He was on Tony K. radio show a few weeks back and said that’s what he wants to do in the future host a TV show. I think he would be a good host just not on a show where he has to act like wanna be Max Kellerman.
     
  25. sch2383

    sch2383 New Member

    Feb 14, 2003
    Northern Virginia
    A few weeks ago a Celtic jersey was on the wall behind Stat Boy and it was followed by a Manchester United one.

    Kornhiser and Wilbon have been working together for something like 25 years so they act like an old married couple whenever you see them together (PTI, radio, local TV). They are really good friends, I remember hearing how Wilbon took Tony's son to the premire of Ali in DC and they sat a few seats from Ali himself.
     

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