I see Matt Reis scored in the shootout against United. Never seen a keeper taking a shot before. Anyone know how often it has happened in the past, even going back to other U.S. leagues?
Campos from Mexico did PKs regularly There's several keepers in Europe who do this - Germany? - Sweden? - Even normal PKs which if they're blocked and smothered by the other Keeper leaves your team very vulnerable at the back Its not done very often, either for regular PKs or shoot-outs, but its been done
Wasn't it the Paraguayan goal keeper who was their freekick specialist? Really, it's not all that odd.
Yeah Jose Luis Chilavert took some free kicks and PK's for Paraguay in the run up to and during the last two World Cups.
In the Euro, Portugal's keeper Ricardo took and Scored a penalty. then Saved one after with his Bare Hands.
Reis has been shooting on fellow keepers in warm-ups and practice his whole life. If anyone could hit one, he could. Plus, he's a former Striker, and is still above average with his feet.
I would think that a keeper would be a pretty good choice for obvious reasons--he's not as tired as everyone else. Most of the field players have been running for 120+ minutes and their legs are pretty much shot. Then they have to wait for a number of minutes, giving their muscles time to tighten up, before carefully taking a shot. Not an easy thing to do and some of the PK's after games show this. I wonder what would happen to scores if golfers had to sprint to the green for 18 holes before putting.
Chilavert is the master at this. I think like 60 goals for Velez Sarsfield over his time in Argentine soccer... Even took Pk's in the Copa Libertadores final...
Good point. Also, Elias did a study and found a modest correlation between weight and PK conversion. Sorta makes sense...if hit hard enough, a well-placed (not perfect, just well placed) PK is unstoppable. Your typical 180 pound, rested GK can put aLOT more mustard behind a shot than a tired 155 pounder.
I once saw Chilavert take a PK during the game (not PK's at the end of a game). He missed it, and then had to sprint back the other way the whole length of the pitch. He got back at the last possible second as an opponent tried to lob the ball into the goal from the center circle. Pretty funny.
As a keeper, I can tell you another reason beside the fatigue factor: We tend to take a whole bunch during downtime as practice is going on. Seriously. During college I must've taken something like 20-30 a day. A lot of keepers couldn't dribble 10 yards, but could strike a pretty good PK. The other thing is that, by and large, if you have a good foot and you put the ball to the left or right, it's going in. Unless you're one of those keepers that has your sweeper/stopper takes all of your GKs, you're gonna have a pretty decent leg.
well, plus, if PKs or shootouts ever go long enough, keepers HAVE to take them. All 11 on the field have to take them before they start again.
I think the more interesting point is how early in the rotation Reis stepped up (2nd or 3rd), and that Pat Noonan, one of the team's top scorers did not take one at all. That tells me the Revs forwards were not too confident going in, and probably explains why the Revs lost. Meanwhile a totally unfazed 15-year-old steps up for DC and slots one in cool as a cucumber.
Hmm. Maybe I'm thinking of the old MLS shootout. I can't find my FIFA LOTG, so I'll take your and Liam's word for it.
During the tie breaker, all 11 players have to kick before a player kicks a second time. They don't need to go in the same order and no order has to be determined and posted in advance, but all 11 need to kick. The only time this would not be the case is if one team finishes the match with fewer than 11 players. In this case, the team with more players reduces its numbers by having the captain determine who will sit out the kicks phase. For instance if one team has a player sent off in extra time, and has 10 men finish the match, the captain of the full strength team has to exclude one player from the kicks and he may not participate as a kicker or the goalkeeper. If one team loses a player DURING the kicks, then the team with more does not reduce its numbers. This obviously leads to potential abuses though.
I think all 11 had to shoot in the MLS shootout as well, which is why Meola took a shot and Peter Vermes once limped to the center circle to take his.
I'll complicate this a little more. If a player is injured during the tie breaker and can not participate, he may be excluded under Fifa's rules as interpreted by the USSF. The other team does not reduce to equal numbers.
i'm not sure if that's considered a complication. It's pretty simple: All of the players who finish the game on the field take PKs in turn till there is a decision. After each takes one they start the order over, again till there is a decision.