Keane's Punishment

Discussion in 'Premier League: News and Analysis' started by Andy, Oct 15, 2002.

  1. Andy

    Andy New Member

    Dec 23, 1998
    NYC
  2. acmilan_barcelona

    acmilan_barcelona Nou Camp-San Siro

    May 11, 2002
    Barcelona Monteserat
    it might seem harsh but he does deserve such a punishment, i like keane as a skilled midfield workhorse but he needs to check on his game attitude and temper in games. he is not any younger and he is already costing man united dearly, i doubt if united will ever extend his contract past it`s current expiry date. thier are so many youngsters rising up who can play the holding midfield role who teams like man united can look up for replacements.
     
  3. LiverpoolFanatic

    Liverpool FC, Philadelphia Union
    Feb 19, 2000
    Lancaster, PA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    An online poll by the BBC about his punishment showed that over 66% (when I checked it) thought the ban and fine were too lenient.
     
  4. Captain Splarg

    Apr 25, 1999
    Pacific Grove, CA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think its a bit too soft a punishment. I would have thought in the region of a 7-9 match ban.
     
  5. DamonEsquire

    DamonEsquire BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 16, 2002
    Kentucky
    Club:
    Leeds United AFC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This monological rememberance litigates and medicalized an vintage. The monetary compugation ended obsolescence. If one is to defy, the evidence must be minscule. One should have used a rule of soccer upon "offsides". The might-have-been approach would be clearness of activities. This incogitable act indicates and induces a lie. The compugator should have changed history by a lie. This lie should have been of cause by action. The lie is as followed:

    The foul injuried the plaintiff and I thought about it after occurrence. I figured. I could sell more books, if I would have only known. The game is brutal at level of professionalism. I am apologetic for lie but I had nothing else to say at time of career. Now that Ireland has emerged; I feel this punishment is inconclusive. There was no carcass!

    The month following appeal leads to extraction of books. The carrier is mugged. The Germans hold national book burning inauguration. Ireland revolts and BBC entire network destroyed by computerezee. The hacker decent is beleaved to be of MiddleEastern.
     
  6. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    I might be in the minority here, but I feel that the ban is totally unjust. Keane has already served a ban from the tackle, and I believe the FA are treading dangerous ground if they feel that they can impose another ban based on the intent. That decision of determining intent is down to the referee at the time, not to any subsequent comittee. I just hope they analise any subsequent tackles by any player.

    That said, I think the fine is around the correct region for his admission of intent and profitting from the claims.
     
  7. DamonEsquire

    DamonEsquire BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 16, 2002
    Kentucky
    Club:
    Leeds United AFC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The foul banning has been servered. However, is going to court punished by a ban as well as guilt?
     
  8. Senor Askew

    Senor Askew Member

    Jan 19, 2001
    San Francisco, CA.
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    HA!!

    Keane deserves what he got and perhaps more. Maybe now he'll keep his ************ing mouth shut and get his head straightend out.

    But I'm not holding my breath.
     
  9. Captain Splarg

    Apr 25, 1999
    Pacific Grove, CA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The fine wasn't that big, £150,000.

    That may be a lot of money to us, but you have to think about what he is making for the book. Also £150,000 isn't even THREE WEEKS wages for him.

    Too bad there is no death penalty in England. Alfi Håland is a class player and didn't deserve any of this.
     
  10. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    You are forgetting the fact that the injury that has kept him out of football is on the leg that Keane did not connect with. Haaland has admitted this on his website, also saying he was having trouble with the knee before the tackle.
     
  11. Captain Splarg

    Apr 25, 1999
    Pacific Grove, CA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I didn't say anything about the injury, but he didn't deserve a premeditated attack by some Irish ****er.

    I've always thought Alfi was class, and i've always though Roy Keane as scum.

    I don't like to see players like Alfi get attacked by anyone, especially people like keane.
     
  12. USsupport

    USsupport New Member

    Aug 4, 1999
    Arlington, VA, USA
    oi! captain. you should know better. let's keep the racism out of it eh?
     
  13. Werdguy

    Werdguy New Member

    Jul 15, 2002
    New York
    if you watch video replays of the tackle, it is pretty damn brutal. obviously tried to hurt him.

    I think the ban and fine is justified. and the issue should be put to rest. Keane should learn his lesson, and stick to playing soccer if he knows whats best for him.
     
  14. LiverpoolFanatic

    Liverpool FC, Philadelphia Union
    Feb 19, 2000
    Lancaster, PA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Part of the ban is for bringing the game into disrepute by writng about it in his book. In the book he called Haaland some choice names, and said he wanted to hurt him. That is definately bringing the game into disrepute in my opinion.

    Great talent, no brains.
     
  15. Matt Clark

    Matt Clark Member

    Dec 19, 1999
    Liverpool
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    The total ban is of course 8 matches, given the three he has already served for the automatic dismissal his assault on Haaland. That's in keeping with other equally notorious occasions, such as the Cantona Kung-Fu (11 matches) and the Paul Davis/Gary Holt thing in '87 (9 matches) or the mass brawl at Highbury in 1991 (biggest ban was 5 matches there I think).

    The fine is crap, but that's the FA for you. Had they ordered a fine of, say, a million quid, Keane would have gone for the court option and United would have appealed (something they are not doing as things stand). Nobody at the FA wants that, because they are too spineless to stand up to the bigger names in the game.
     
  16. Captain Splarg

    Apr 25, 1999
    Pacific Grove, CA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    I love the Irish, and i like Ireland. Nothing there, i just said he was an Irish w***er. I think you'll find both of those discriptions to be correct.
     
  17. michaec

    michaec Member

    Arsenal
    England
    May 24, 2001
    Essex
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    The ban and fine are for two counts of bringing the game into disrepute as I understand it. First for deliberately setting out to injure an opponent. Secondly for writing about it in his book.

    The ban is totally justified when viewed with other incidents as described by Matt Clark above. And those weren't even pre-meditated, so you could argue that this was even worse. The fine is a joke, a bit like fining PSV 12 grand for their racist fans. At least that one is being appealed.

    I am a bit suspicious that his ban miraculously ends just when United play Arsenal though :)
     
  18. rafaelj

    rafaelj New Member

    Nov 13, 2001
    Los Angeles, CA
    Keane's Punishment way too soft

    I had hoped for a 2 year suspension as a clear signal.

    But I knew the FA wouldn't dare to do the right thing.

    Maybe UEFA can step in and ban him from CL soccer?

    Keane is a despicable human being.
     
  19. Captain Splarg

    Apr 25, 1999
    Pacific Grove, CA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Most of what i've read in the papers have been VERY critical of the lightness of the punishment.

    Most people wanted a much larger fine (as its only a fraction of the book deal) and somewhere around a 1 year suspension.

    The FA really messed this one up.

    That's why they are known as the MUFA.
     

  20. Eh?
     
  21. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Eskimos have over 50 words for snow. The reason is that they experience so much snow, they're intimately familiar with all of its varieties.

    So it is with a diverse nation like the US and racism. Captain, when you write this, to an American, it sounds like you're saying that there's a relationship between him being Irish and him being a w*****. It's like the difference between calling someone a black motherf***** and just calling him a motherf*****. The first is racist. If you're colorblind, then you'll not notice the Irishness of the w***** or the blackness of the motherf*****.
     
  22. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Re: Keane's Punishment way too soft


    The only way Keane could be banned from the Champions League is if the FA requested a lengthy global ban (which would also have to be endorsed by FIFA) as happened with Cantona.

    Any hopes for a longer ban are just based on personal feelings towards the player, and not on any rational thinking. Far worse acts have been committed on football pitches and gone unpunished. Anyone who thinks that Keane is the first person to deliberatly set out to hurt someone is being naive. Obviously, many other people have not admitted it, but that is besides the point. Many people are committed for crimes they do not admit to, it does not make them any less guilty. I believe that the FA are now bound to look into any case where it is suspected there may have been any intent to injure.
    The fine equates to about 3 weeks wages for Keane (after tax). That is a pretty hefty fine for anyone to take.
     
  23. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Member+

    Club Med
    Aug 3, 2000
    Proxima Centauri
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The FA got the number right but not the units. The number is 5, yes....5 years, not matches.
     
  24. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Anyone else find it amusing that Julian Dicks, Tommy Smith and Ron "Chopper" Harris have all come out saying the punishment is too leniant.

    A fine case of Mr. Pot and Mr. Kettle if ever there was one.
     
  25. Jester&ni

    Jester&ni New Member

    Mar 5, 2002
    Spanish in England
    That's pretty soft man. Keane will be banned for five games and has also been fined £150,000, however he does have the right of appeal.

    Considering how much he gets paid a month and 5 match banned is nothing. He injures someone on purpose and takes more time to recover
     

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