PBP: Kamala Harris vs Donald Trump :: Election Day Thread [R]

Be honest, how much effort have you put into looking into this story ? Like the real reason so many Haitians ended up in this little town.

 

What happened to all the illegals who vote ? So many came in under Biden. They are all being directed to swing states right ? I mean ... what happened then ?

 

It's Underwear Gnomes level of critical thinking. The idea that Democrats are bringing immigrants in to red areas to turn them blue is missing some steps. I'm trying to imagine how it would work - at Democrat HQ, there's like a big map, and Democrats are standing around it with, like, chess pieces, pushing them around on the map. "If we send the Haitians to Ohio, and some of them get their citizenship or have anchor babies, then in 20 years there will be a handful of Democratic votes there!" "But what if they move somewhere else or choose not to vote Democratic?" "Shut up, our plan is perfect!" If that's our level of strategic planning, no wonder we keep losing elections.

 

I just also realized that this supposed master plan targets small red county level as opposed to just plain state level on battleground states. Must be some 5d chess move going on ...

But when they post county level non-population adjusted "electoral maps" I guess it makes sense. Intersectionality is real ... intersectionality of dumb and stupid.

 

Because there was work opportunity and low cost of living in the city. Some company or companies used staffing agencies that placed some Haitians there from other areas in the US including Florida where they were already living. These Haitians qualify to work in the US based on their temporary asylum status. Then some word of mouth in the Haitian community ended up bringing more to the city searching for work. Many I assume had just come form Haiti as Biden loosen their asylum quota based on the situation in the country. You know "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free" kind of stuff.

According to city officials, there was no federal program (like sanctuary cities) that is responsible for Haitians coming to the city. If you want to believe something else, then you do you.

You can 100% make an argument about general immigration policies. Biden opened up those policies a bit more because post-Covid the country had a labor shortage that was adding to inflation. There is also a case to be made that 15k people from a different culture coming into a town of 50k people is going to cause conflicts and adaptation problems that needs to be addressed.

Lastly, what does turning a small county blue have anything to do with Presidential elections ? Why not move them to a big city in the same state ? Please answer that question. This was your claim that there was something mischievous about turning a small red county blue.

 

Of course ...

 

As it pertains to Presidential elections, what difference does it make if 15k voters vote blue in a big city versus a the same 15 voting blue in a small city if they are from the same state ?

I am not making this up. There are articles written explaining the whole situation. You just need a little bit of good will to look it up and get out from the social media bubble or whatever news source you use that's feeding you info. If you trust a politicians word, I hate to tell you, Trump / Vance lies to you just as any other politician. Probably more.

Have you looked at the map ? Springfield is like less than 30 mins away from Dayton and less than an hour away from Columbus. It's not in the middle of North Dakota hours away from civilization. Ohio is a state that is seeing some industrialization return. Businesses are going to look for places that are cost effective and somewhat close to more urban centers depending on their sector. BMW has a factory in Spartanburgh, South Carolina. The city's population TODAY is like 35k. It isn't rocket science to understand this.

If we want industrialization to come back to the US, which is the plan (and which Biden has done better than Trump in his first term), we will need immigrant labor force. That's just a fact.

Then that's a DMV problem isn't it ? Haven them have better driving education.

As far as voodoo, I don't know much about that. As far as I can tell, they sacrifice chickens, pigs, and goats and not your pets. If they break our laws, they should be charged with the crime they committed.

 

It sounds like you spend a lot of time looking for and watching videos to reinforce your previously held beliefs. I can't help you with that. But I want to go through the logic of this claim about the government subsidized housing to see if it makes sense to you.

If there is a list of people who need government subsidized housing, that list is almost certainly operated by local government - city or county, possibly state, but probably not, because the state is too high level to manage that kind of thing. It is absolutely certainly not operated by the federal government. The federal government provides money to states, which distributes the money to counties or cities to handle this kind of thing.

The state government of Ohio is Republican. The county government of whatever county Springfield, Ohio is in, is almost certainly Republican. I haven't looked it up, but given the demographics of Ohio and rural/urban divide, I'm pretty confident in assuming that the county government is Republican. You can look it up and prove me wrong if you want. The city government, same deal - almost certainly Republican. Keep in mind that the Haitian migrants CAN'T VOTE because they're NOT CITIZENS, which you still seem to think is a thing, so however many migrants are there, they haven't voted for city or county government, which makes it likely that the local governments are Republican.

So, the older gentleman was allegedly bumped down a list for subsidized disabled housing in favor of migrants. Who did that bumping? The Republican city government? The Republican county government? The Republican state government? Or the Democratic federal government? I guarantee you it wasn't the Biden administration.

It sounds like this complaint is with the Republicans who run the local government there.