PBP: Kamala Harris vs Donald Trump :: Election Day Thread [R]

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  1. Brilliant Oranje

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    I'm not trolling. I am giving you my honest opinion
     
  2. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

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    But they didn't say what you said they say. You are making assumptions and putting words in their mouth. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean you are free to bear false witness. And that is exactly what you are doing, bearing false witness.
     
  3. hector_br

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    I know, I want to stop, but they keep replying to my posts.
     
  4. Brilliant Oranje

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    Be honest, you think Trump is a Nazi too, dont you??
     
  5. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

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    "Donald Trump's got this big rally going at Madison Square Garden," Walz said Sunday at a canvas kickoff event in Las Vegas. "There's a direct parallel to a big rally that happened in the mid 1930s at Madison Square Garden. And don't think that he doesn't know for one second exactly what they're doing there. So, look, we said we're all running like everything's on the line because it is."

    Trump 2024 senior adviser Tim Murtaugh told "Fox & Friends First" on Monday that Walz's comment was "offensive," and that "they should be ashamed of themselves."
     
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  6. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

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    She didn't need to say "we don't think that's a Nazi rally" because nobody actually said it was, except for people like you. Just like no one said he was Hitler except for JD Vance. You're not arguing reality, you are arguing a straw man.

    Listen, you support a vile, disgusting, juvenile fascist. That's on you.
     
  7. Brilliant Oranje

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    The mainstream media loves to push fear tactics on their audience.
    It works really well on Libs too, because they live in natural state of anxiety
     
  8. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

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    Let's see, here is exactly what I have repeatedly said and which you have been incapable of refuting. If you are incapable of understanding what I have written, just say so.

    He used English versions of things Hitler said (enemies of the people, vermin, poisoning the blood, etc).
    He said he owned a copy of Mein Kampf.
    His ex-wife said he kept a book of Hitler's speeches next to his bed.
    His former chief of staff said he admired Hitler's good qualities.
    He dined with white supremacists.
    He had cousins who were literally Nazis.
    He admires and is friendly with autocrats like Putin, Orban, Xi, Erdogan and Kim.
    He surrounds himself with people who are using the same playbook as Hitler did.
    He told white supremacists to "stand back and stand by".


    Now add to it the understanding of what fascism is:


    1. Extreme nationalism - check (MAGA, America First ...)
    2. Militarism - check (wanting to use the military to suppress BLM protests)
    3. Placement of national interests above those of the individual - check (Covid, for one example)
    4. Advocate for the overthrow of institutions they view as "liberal decay" - check (wants to get rid of Department of Education, "fake news", January 6th ...)
    5. Promoting traditional values - check
    6. Supremacy of certain peoples - check ("stand back and stand by", Charlottesville ...)
    7. Persecution of other groups - check
    8. Cult of personality - check
    9. Seek to rally massive crowds - check


    Based on the evidence, we can safely deduce that Trump is a Hitler-loving fascist. Just because you support a fascist doesn't change the fact that he is a fascist.
     
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  9. stanger

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    I don’t think Trump is a nazi. My parents were German immigrants so that term has a lot of power in my mind and Trump doesn’t fit the bill.

    I think Trump is an opportunist. He used the angst that had built up during the Obama administration to get elected as the white male. He used his position to put SC justices in place that are largely loyalists and then leaned on them to get immunity from prosecution, and I think he will use that again.

    My fear is that he puts loyalists in place that will not act in the best interests of the country and will be successful in holding office beyond his term.

    Quite honestly, I think he’s too lazy to do the work to be Hitler. He would rather play golf. It’s the people that he appoints and the people that use his blueprint after he is gone that should give everyone pause.
     
  10. hector_br

    hector_br Member+

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    Trump is a fascist dictator who lost an election.
     
  11. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

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    Don't forget the January 6 rioters he said he was going to pardon shortly after the election was called for him.
     
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  12. ElNaranja

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    Guys, they'll continue to defend him even as people are sent to the camps. Why bother? They want you dead and will be happy to see us gone.
     
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  13. Sounders78

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    No, at the time he was a "wannabe" fascist dictator, who just happened to be too stupid to pull it off, given he couldn't overcome the people around him who cared more for American democracy than for him. He won't make that mistake again.
     
  14. hector_br

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    Who is he sending to camps exactly? He wants to deport the illegals, he is not anti-semitic (like the left party) so the jews seem safe. Women, black people, gay people, etc. will all carry on with their lives and he will not remove them from where they live. Who's going to these camps then?
     
  15. Brilliant Oranje

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  16. hector_br

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    Oh, of course.
     
  17. Brilliant Oranje

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    Tell you what, for the next 4 years I'm going to post ITT all the good things and bad things Trump does. When his term is up in 2028 we shall all compare notes and see if Trump did anything remotely similar that Hitler did. If he does anything Hitler-esque I will admit it, and own up to it.

    Sound fair??
     
  18. hector_br

    hector_br Member+

    Feb 13, 2007
    Who is DTJ sending to camps as soon as he becomes the president? Who did he send to camps in his first term?
     
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  19. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

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    No, you won't, given you won't even admit that calling people "vermin", "poisoning the blood", "enemies of the people" is Hitleresque - you equate it to drinking water. Everyone drinks water, not everyone uses Hitler's language to talk about minorities (in fact, very few people do and they are usually people like Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, etc.). The fact that you cannot distinguish between those speaks volumes about your character.
     
  20. Naughtius Maximus

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    Yeah, that's broadly my thinking as well. He's not Hitler because Hitler at least was moderately competent and had a strength of will Trump lacks.

    Trump's what would be called a well-off 'chancer' over here. The sort of low intellect person who's only really in the position he is because of how much wealth he inherited.
     
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  21. Brilliant Oranje

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    Yes, I will

    My character is just fine, and I dont need a seal of approval from you
     
  22. hector_br

    hector_br Member+

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    "Gender-affirming" mutilation of children is Hitleresque. And here you are, probably advocating for it.
     
  23. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

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    Listen, you equate the Hitler-loving felon's use of Hitler's language against minorities to people drinking water. Everyone drinks water, not everyone uses Hitler's language to talk about minorities.

    Either you are an absolute moron, you are simply trolling, or you are someone who would have been a Hitler youth member given the opportunity.
     
  24. Dr. Wankler

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    Trump will likely wind up being a more malevolent George III rather than a Hitler. Esp. given the cognitive decline that is increasingly evident.
     
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  25. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

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    And it's not even happening. It's amazing how you people believe every lie you are told. Boys are not going to school coming home as girls. It's simply not happening.
     
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