PBP: Kamala Harris vs Donald Trump :: Election Day Thread [R]

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  1. celito

    celito Moderator
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    She has 68m votes right now. She will get around 75m votes when all votes are in. Get your facts straight troll.
     
  2. Rossonero23

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    Not pepe, I have a huge Nixon portrait as well as a neat Coolidge banner
     
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  3. Rossonero23

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    Grover Cleveland!
     
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  4. Knave

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    I've got another hypothesis that I want to test once all the numbers are in, which won't be for weeks. That hypothesis is that there was a smaller red-shift in the battleground states where Harris campaigned than in the non-battleground blue states. If that turns out to be true, it would suggest that Harris ran a "successful" campaign, but that she started off the race much further behind than anyone realized.
     
  5. Dr. Wankler

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    “Interesting hypothesis” rep.
     
  6. celito

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    This is a bit of what I calculated roughly in swing states. Most are 99% in. Not sure about absentee ballots:


    FL - Kamala: -(600k). Trump: +500k

    GA - Kamala: +80k Trump: +200k

    MI - Kamala: -(80k). Trump: +150k

    NV - Kamala: -(40k) Trump: +5k

    PA - Kamala: -(120k) Trump: +100k

    WI - Kamala: -(40)k Trump: +90k

    AZ - a bit early ... but may end up being a washer for her.
     
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  7. Rossonero23

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    Florida is no longer a swing state. Have to use Ohio model in Wisconsin. Send the communists packing. It's possible.
    They do control the state court though which isn't good. Stalinists judges.
     
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  8. the5timechamp

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    Its not ignored, its dismissed as AI trickery.. just as an obvious forgery of Obama with Epstein would be legitimate
     
  9. Nainggolan

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  10. the5timechamp

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    The bottom line and reason she lost is that the core tenets of the US voter above everything else is racism, and sexism.

    Dems took the Hillary campaign, studied it and dissected it, Harris fixed all of Clintons missteps and still landed on the same spot

    the core of this county is racism and sexism.. so drop any illusion of sending AOC or Crockett up there. America is the sexist racist rock against which good women will shatter

    I also pray to f'n god that this is also the end of “_______ celebrity endorses Dem candidate"

    The party of "the common good folk" partying with the most "visibly wealthy" is not good optics.. All it does is play into the idea that your vote is only needed to keep you partying with the elite class

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    That is Repudiation… any Democrat male or female would have lost this election. Biden can say inflation is down and job growth all day.. but the price of eggs and gas is always laid at the lap of the current President… hell without COVID we would now be finishing Trumps 8th year

    Back to the woman President bit:
    The only way we get a woman President is
    “IF” GOP does it first then the Dems would be nearly obligated to because you know those MAGAts will easily and automatically try to emasculate any man sent against whatever Trumpette they send out (Dems dont get to use misogyny)… voter turnout would probably be a record low
     
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  11. Nainggolan

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  12. stanger

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    While I don’t disagree with that, to me it came down to meanness, aggression and selfishness. All traits of Trump but also traits of the young males that make people like Rogan popular.

    And you can see by the trolls that came out of the woodwork that they feel emboldened.
     
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  13. PJ234

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    Yeah these online Influencers are crazy for real.
     
  14. Rossonero23

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    Ok Lawrence O'Donnell
    Unless axelrod a secret poster.
     
  15. dark knight

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    Use this term again and your access will be removed.
     
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  16. Rossonero23

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    If you're not a far left radical, you won't get a fair shot from CNN, nbc, msnbc, ABC, CBS, politico, Atlantic, PBS, npr, nyt, the post etc
    I mean look at how they tried to make Liz Cheyney into a martyr. Brad Pitt did the same thing when he accepted his first ever Oscar. He praised John Bolton.
     
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  17. Knave

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    Interestingly, some folks have already been looking at these numbers:

    "This is a nationwide shift to the right and against the presidential in-party, and the shift was notably less pronounced in the contested battleground states, which is the opposite of what you would expect if Harris ran a poor campaign."
    https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.co...aign-in-a-fiercely-anti-incumbent-environment
     
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  18. diablodelsol

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    That you afford a second chance is a problem.
     
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  19. Knave

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  20. the5timechamp

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    Right, but its been building that way since before 2016. Social Media allows folks to live in a pseudo "virtual reality" where they are allowed to be crass and hateful without much consequence.. It appears that a lot of the antagonistic and dismissive rhetoric from the right feeds into that part of folks... so the country decided to let their online persona vote.

    A huge chunk of the culture war is also still tied into the old generation telling the youngsters how soft theyve become.. its shifted the “a real man..” fights online where the schmucks take their faux manliness and use it to question or talk down others… they want that validation of the Tates and Rogans of the world… the bitch bros

    Either way lots of interviews are coming out from Latinos and/or other migrants anout how they dont believe Trump mass deportation and “de-naturalization” wont apply to them so.. next year should start off fun.. poor Leopards might explode IMG_7078.jpeg
     
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  21. Jazzy Altidore

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    #1321 Jazzy Altidore, Nov 7, 2024
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    she ran a completely risk adverse campaign where she largely refused to articulate her policy positions or otherwise give substantive answers to basic questions. for example, she wouldn’t even state her position in regard to California’s prop 36–passed by 75 percent of Californians. With this approach she looked like anything but a leader.

    also, parading around THE CHENEYS was completely nuts. Dick Cheney was the most reviled figure by democrats and many republicans (rightfully so) before Trump came along and many republicans. Embracing them came across as a cynical political opportunity that had no up side because zero shy republicans are switching to Harris for…dick Cheney.
     
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  22. wantmlsphilly

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    The I told you so was what you're not listening to because this is a landslide and the popular vote. Folks are done listening to the fear mongering.
     
  23. PJ234

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    Should've been Bernie in 2016
     
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  24. celito

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    Is it not "communists, enemy from within, if we lose this election the country is over, they are eating your cats and dogs" fear mongering ?
     
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  25. Jazzy Altidore

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    Did you just call Latinos “migrants”? You realize that most Latino voters in this country are first or second generation Americans? Not migrants?
     

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