Juventus 19/20 Serie A Season Thread for January [R]

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  1. Falc

    Falc Member+

    Jul 29, 2006
    Maryland
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    Juventus FC
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    Italy
    Obviously you have nothing to write to home about either.
     
  2. Orange14

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    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
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    Netherlands
    I only caught bits and pieces of the match as I had some other things to do around the house. I did think the MF looked much better than in past matches I've watched. Passing and positioning was better.
     
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  3. Nek Sanalet

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    AC Milan
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    Dec 30, 2013
    NYC
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    AC Milan
    #128 Nek Sanalet, Jan 13, 2020
    Last edited: Jan 13, 2020
    LOL.
    Rugani never plays. Never gets a chance.
    Berna was played out of position all year, and is now benched for his troubles.

    And no one else on the team has looked like "shit all season". Every win is an aesthetically pleasing masterclass of football for Juve.
     
  4. gumbacicc

    gumbacicc Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    USA
    You act as if Rugani hasn't had his chance. It's not as if it's his first season at Juve. He has had plenty of chances and has looked mediocre at best. He couldn't even win a regular spot with Sarri who is the manager under whom he played his best football at Empoli.

    In the handful of chances that Demiral had before he got hurt, he looked far better. De Ligt is also clearly better. I'm not sure what you expect Sarri (or even would have expected Allegri) to do.

    Again, it's not Sarri's job to make a formation that suits Bernardeschi, who is at best our 5th best attacking option. Bernardeschi's chance was to make that trequartista position his. He had multiple chances and was shit almost every time he was played there. I would cut him some slack given that it's not his favored role; that said, Sarri doesn't have to play a 4-3-3 just because it suits a player that at this point is only on the fringes. (By the way, Sarri tried that earlier in the season and Bernardeschi was average there as well).

    As far as the other players, Ronaldo has been stellar the last couple months. Pipita and Dybala have been superb. Costa has looked good when he has played. Even Ramsey has looked better than Bernardeschi in the trequartista role. There is literally no justification for sitting any of the guys I just mentioned to accommodate Bernardeschi who hasn't done well.

    In defense, Bonucci has arguably been our best player all season. Demiral was superb before he got hurt--and you're not going to sit De Ligt for Rugani. When Chiello comes back Rugani will move further down the pecking order.

    I don't get your argument with those two.
     
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  5. Tifoso

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    Juventus
    Italy
    Feb 24, 2007
    northern California
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    Juventus FC
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    Italy
    I have to agree, and I am a big fan of Juve at least having some Italian representation. I thought that Inter's zero Italians team was just dumb
     
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  6. NicktheGreek

    NicktheGreek Member+

    Feb 15, 2001
    But when I do write I don't whine about good fortune.
     
  7. gumbacicc

    gumbacicc Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    USA
    As am I. I am a huge supporter of the Italian National Team. However, this idea that Juve (or any other club) should play Italians for the sake of it is silly if Juve are trying to aim to be the best club in the world. It's one thing if you're talking about a Baggio, Del Piero, Maldini, Baresi, Pirlo, etc. However arguments that are being made for the likes of Bernardeschi, Rugani or De Sciglio don't fly.

    The encouraging thing is that there are a number of youngsters coming up that will be at that level. I would love for Juve to get Tonali or Chiesa. I would have liked for them to make a play for Barella or Sensi. These are just some of a crop of what could (finally again) be a nice generation of players for the national side.
     
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  8. Falc

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    Jul 29, 2006
    Maryland
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    Juventus FC
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    Italy
    Is it whine or being realistic? We have succeeded on talent. Talent that is being held back because of a system from a stubborn coach who has won little. In fact, Chelsea fans will say they won last season despite his system.There was a lot of complaining about Allegri last season. Here we are at the halfway point and the team is still adjusting to tactics.
     
  9. juventino13

    juventino13 Member+

    Nov 25, 2005
    Your mom's cellar
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Juventus are close to being in FFP trouble due to their payroll being above the threshold required (at 71% of total revenue, should be below 70%) That's the real reason why there was a 300m capital increase. Juventus has been running at a loss and will apparently continue running at loss for this 19/20 season as well
     
  10. NicktheGreek

    NicktheGreek Member+

    Feb 15, 2001
    I think our individual opinions on what constitutes realism on this subject will never converge. My measure is very unsophisticated, you either win or lose at the end of the day. I step back and look at the whole picture rather than scrutinizing each brush stroke to detect a flaw. The big picture I see is top of the table in Serie A and round of 16 in the CL
     
  11. Falc

    Falc Member+

    Jul 29, 2006
    Maryland
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    Juventus FC
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    Italy
    Where did I complain about winning? I only acknowledged that we won due to a mistake & a penalty. Today, the team played with freedom. It was worth writing home about.
     
  12. IcEWoLF

    IcEWoLF Member+

    Juventus
    Jul 15, 2014
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Matuidi is getting worse and worse, he is way past his prime and is very slow and has been horrible all season.
    It’s time we bring in someone else, at this point anyone else would be an upgrade at this position

    This midfield is not going to cut it in the next stage in the champions league.
     
  13. gumbacicc

    gumbacicc Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    USA
    lol the team is being held back and the squad is still adjusting to tactics but we’re right where we were last season atop the league (and have actually fared better in Champions League thus far).
     
  14. IcEWoLF

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    Juventus
    Jul 15, 2014
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Inter drops points against Lecce. 1-1.

    We need to get in there and get a W.

    I am more worried about Lazio than Inter at this point.
     
  15. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    Italy
    I saw their goals again and Lazio is on fire. I can't believe ow good they are. Not sure if they will catch Juve but I see them surpassing Inter.
     
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  16. Dante

    Dante Moderator
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    Nov 19, 1998
    Binghamton, NY
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    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  17. Falc

    Falc Member+

    Jul 29, 2006
    Maryland
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    Juventus FC
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    Italy
    Game not even 5 minutes in & Parma already parking the bus. Let’s see if they open up at all
     
  18. Dante

    Dante Moderator
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    Nov 19, 1998
    Binghamton, NY
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    Juventus FC
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    United States
    I think any other team and that foul on Ronaldo is a penalty. The ref was looking right at them as well, he was clearly fouled in the box.
     
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  19. Dante

    Dante Moderator
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    Nov 19, 1998
    Binghamton, NY
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    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Danilo in, Alex Sandro off.
     
  20. Afghan-Juventus

    Afghan-Juventus Member+

    Oct 14, 2012
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Afghanistan
    Ramsey at CAM just ain't it man.
     
  21. Afghan-Juventus

    Afghan-Juventus Member+

    Oct 14, 2012
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    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Afghanistan
    Im guessing Sandro has to use the toilet, similar to Evra a few years ago.
     
  22. Dante

    Dante Moderator
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    Nov 19, 1998
    Binghamton, NY
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why is Pjanic still the man running the midfield? He's been subpar for a while now. The midfield is offering nothing attacking wise. Rabiot has been pretty sloppy today.
     
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  23. Afghan-Juventus

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    Oct 14, 2012
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Afghanistan
    Really wish Sarri stuck with the midfield played during midweek.
     
  24. Dante

    Dante Moderator
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    Nov 19, 1998
    Binghamton, NY
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    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ronaldo makes it 1-0 in an otherwise pretty uneventful first half.
     
  25. IcEWoLF

    IcEWoLF Member+

    Juventus
    Jul 15, 2014
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ramsey is so trash!
     
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