Just glad to be back - Gio Reyna at Borussia Mönchengladbach

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by jond, Dec 6, 2017.

  1. RecLeague Super Sub

    Fulham
    United States
    Jun 5, 2019
    It really is a thing of beauty when he is on his game. I guess where I get stuck is that he seems to be that luxury player, as many on here have labeled him.

    It maye be a tradeoff when you play him - your going to get that on-the-ball control/ability/vision/passing, etc, but you may lose some aggression/work rate in the midfield; which may have been the dilemma all his managers faced. But if the USMNT or BMG can afford that tradeoff or build around it, then he has a great claim to be on the pitch.

    And like you said, maybe he will become a full 90 player and also improve in other departments along the way.
     
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  2. NYdog

    NYdog Member+

    United States
    Nov 6, 2024
    United States
    Luxury player may not thrive in a relegation threated team
     
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  3. kruck

    kruck Member+

    Jan 12, 2008
    Houston, TX
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    It's a thing of beauty when he's off his game too.

    Reyna didn't start a game for 6 months prior to winning 2024 CONCACAF NL Player of the Tournament.

    Arguably the best field player the United States has ever produced.

    He should be on the field for us every minute his body will allow it.
     
  4. RecLeague Super Sub

    Fulham
    United States
    Jun 5, 2019
    I like the enthusaism. But "Arguably" is doing alot of work in that sentence. IMO we can't even begin to speculate on something like that until there is a decent body of work to assess. And judging that from CONCACAF NL tournaments is not going to cut it, I am afraid. Yes, I have seen his highlight reel and his great games from Dormtund years ago, I agree the talent is fantatsic.

    Still a fan of him, still rooting for him, but not gonna jump to those conclusions just based on the nice aesthetics of his game. We'll see down the road.
     
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  5. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
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    FC Dallas
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    United States
    There are of course differing levels of luxury players with Messi at the top and say Lucho Acosta down a lot lower. Where does Gio fit on the scale and will his fitness and therefore running, sprinting and defense improve the more minutes he gets? I'd say yes but can't say by how much. An encouraging sign was he got taken down pretty hard a couple times and he got right back up. That indicates to me he might be mostly over injuries and being afraid of reinsuring himself. As someone mentioned he did chase back and body someone and I think we forget he's a big guy and he should be coming into his own strength wise. The US usually has a lot of undersized players especially mids but they could throw out Tessmann, Reyna, Johnny and McKennie and flex some muscle if the coach desired.
     
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  6. dams

    dams Member+

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    Dec 22, 2018
    Yeah that is the worry. Could also work out the other way. Where he stays healthy, ends up as the best player on the team, a player who they need to rely on, and he leads them out of the relegation zone.

    The vision and passing are great to see, but they are not really surprising when it comes to Gio. But I have to be honest, I'm kinda cautiously optimistic after watching those highlights. I thought he seemed to be showing a bit of a spark on the physical side that we haven't seen out of him at Dortmund for a while now. Feels to me like there finally could be light at the end of the tunnel when it comes to Gio.
     
  7. don Lamb

    don Lamb Member+

    mine
    United States
    Aug 31, 2017
    I think he showed plenty of aggression and work rate in those clips. Luxury players don't chase down the keeper from 20 yards away, track players from behind in the midfield or fly into challenges like he did.
     
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  8. Gorky

    Gorky Member+

    Jul 28, 2006
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    New York Red Bulls
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    United States
    I am a bit worried about this coaching change. Depending on which way they go, BMG may embrace their role as relegation battlers and lean in to a defensive, counterattacking, or pressing style. None of these would suit Reyna. Meanwhile, Seoane was clearly a fan.
     
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  9. felloveranddidanadu

    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Dec 12, 2009
    Club:
    San Jose Frogs
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm still optimistic that he'll have a role no matter the system or coach. His teammates don't look very good, at least judging by last week.
     
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  10. twoolley

    twoolley Member+

    Jan 3, 2008
    If hes healthy no a coach doesnt play him. You still have to score goals to stay up
     
  11. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
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    FC Dallas
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    United States
    We don't know that he was healthy at Dortmund but they sure didn't play him.
     
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  12. twoolley

    twoolley Member+

    Jan 3, 2008
    Yeah but hes not at Dortmund. His current team is much worse
     
  13. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    They didn't fire a manager three games into the season because they are looking to embrace a role as a relegation battler.
     
  14. Gorky

    Gorky Member+

    Jul 28, 2006
    NYC
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    New York Red Bulls
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    United States
    Ok, that’s the next coaching change then.
     
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  15. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    Correct
     
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  16. Casper

    Casper Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    New York
    Not very different than the team that came in tenth last year. There's enough talent there to be mid-table. The players they added should be pretty close to the level of the guys who left.
     
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  17. Rahbiefowlah

    Rahbiefowlah Member+

    Oct 22, 2001
    Las Vegas
    Underwhelming thread name choice, IMO.
     
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  18. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Air on a Gio string: Reyna at Borussia MönchengladBach
     
  19. SteelyTom

    SteelyTom Member

    Mar 21, 2007
    Boston, MA USA
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    Pumas UNAM
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    United States
    Right bach at you
     
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  20. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    Pretty negative thread title isn’t it?
     
  21. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
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    FC Dallas
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    United States
    Just kind of meh. There were a lot of better ones tossed out. Still waiting on the new coach to be names so we can doom guess how it affects Gio.
     
  22. Dervos

    Dervos Member+

    Mar 13, 2002
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    Austin Aztex
    I like it, don't think it's negative at all. I take it as a weight lifted off of him. It's a fresh start. It's got to be a huge relief to just get back to getting on the field and getting to play soccer.
     
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  23. glutton4Bolts

    glutton4Bolts Member+

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    Mar 18, 2019
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    It should simply be changed to: "Glad to be Bach"
     
  24. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    That or (the preferable) Bach to the Future, which had many partisans.
     
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  25. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001

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