Juan Agudelo in "search" of a Club

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  1. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Obviously the situations are very different, but Heaps has been a good coach for Charlie Davies and also Lee Nguyen, two guys who were once very shiny and then, later, substantially less shiny, before once again becoming more shinier. Maybe he can do the same for Agudelo.
     
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  2. m vann

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    Staff Member

    Colorado Rapids, Celtic FC, & Louisville City
    Sep 10, 2002
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just two years ago returning to MLS would be like a puppy dog with his tail between his legs. Now you can just fly across the Atlantic really quickly and return with a DP contract! My, how times have changed! Seriously, I've been quick to ridicule Juan, his decisions, and the time elapsed in finding employment. It's been frustrating but it wasn't because I didn't like Juan --- it's simply because he's a talented young player that needed to be playing. It didn't want his development stunted because of the decisions he made. Nonetheless, returning to the Revs is exciting. They are chalk full of talent and they need help up front. The Juan and Charlie Show could be fun to watch.
     
  3. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    [​IMG]
     
  4. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    #3779 The Irish Rover, Jan 27, 2015
    Last edited: Jan 27, 2015
    And there'll be Jermaine Jones to teach him the difference between having an ego and backing up that ego with consistent production. Not to mention Nguyen to show him where not being an "I want England! Only England!" princess can get you.

    It's a real opportunity for Agudelo. If he scores like he scored when he was last with the Revs, there'll be plenty of European offers at the end of this contract - probably good ones too - as well as the time to take advantage of them (he only turned 22 in November).

    Let's hope he takes it.
     
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  5. LoewenBoy

    LoewenBoy Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    Giesing, Muenchen
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Sint Maarten
    Jermaine Jones is going to do all that? o_O

    I guess 2015 Jermaine can. 2004 Jermaine was like a poster-child for ego over form.:cautious::cool:
     
  6. Martin Fischer

    Martin Fischer Member+

    Feb 23, 1999
    Kampala. Uganda
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No doubt, if Agudelo had signed with 1860 in August, that might have been best.
     
  7. Hararea

    Hararea Member+

    Jan 21, 2005
    Again, the setback was eight months with no soccer at all. In the wake of that, players quickly become pariahs. Joining MLS with a long pre-season to get back into form is just about the best case.

    Something tells me he and Bobby W. would've been hanging. :)
     
  8. MLSFan123

    MLSFan123 Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Boston Area
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ESPN says the deal is imminent. Rumored to be through the 2018 season.


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    Whispers of Juan Agudelo re-joining the New England Revolution got louder on Tuesday as ESPN FC reported that a deal is imminent.

    More than confirmation of Monday's news initially conveyed by Goal.com's Ives Galarcep, the ESPN FC article notes that Agudelo's new deal could keep him in New England through 2018. This, of course, would create stability in the striker position, which has been in flux since Taylor Twellman's injury in 2008.
     
  9. usry723

    usry723 Member+

    Aug 14, 2008
    Georgia, USA
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He had the best stretch of his career under basically the same setup. Only things different now is Davies and Jones there. This is a great move to get him back on track.
     
  10. MLSFan123

    MLSFan123 Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Boston Area
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am shocked that even a single poster would complain about this.

    This is not a case of the typical American player going overseas and rotting on a bench or in the reserves somewhere. At least in those all too many sad cases you have the absolute bare minimum of the players actually practicing.

    Agudelo had his head up his fully healthy butt for 8 long months (makes you wonder what Stewart Holden must privately think who would kill to be that healthy).

    This is by far the best thing that could have realistically happened to this seemingly mentally lost player. He is only 22 and has plenty of time to find himself.
     
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  11. MLSFan123

    MLSFan123 Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Boston Area
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maturity does wonders for a player especially as he gets into his twilight years. JJ could not have been a better team mate when he joined NE last year, leading the young players by word and deed.

    Whether Agudelo is mature enough to learn from JJ is a whole other question.

    If Agudelo finds his mojo, this situation is set up perfect for him to find a long path back to the Nats. It certainly was never going to happen in Europe.
     
  12. keller4president

    Jan 5, 2006
    If Agudelo signs this deal, he has narrowly avoided becoming the next Freddy Adu - wandering the Euro and South American wilderness for the next 6 years, hopping from club to club on 6-month and 12-month contracts which always end badly.

    If he lights up MLS for next 2-3 years, MLS will sell him before 2018 to a big Euro club that is willing to bid for him ahead of the next World Cup.
     
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  13. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    not me. Personally I would rather see the USA boys making MLS stronger and stronger. We do not have a league that is satisfied as a feeder league for the big 5. We aspire to be Big 6 and we have the ability to do it (sorry to be so American).
     
  14. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    or MLS will BE one of those big leagues.
     
  15. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    for whom?
     
  16. LoewenBoy

    LoewenBoy Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    Giesing, Muenchen
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Sint Maarten
    No doubt. It's a long, long road still.
     
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  17. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    They won't as long as the budgets are this low. When your average pay is ~ $150K, you're not going to get much better than a League One quality performance from your rank-n-file.

    And, quite often, you won't get it from your star performers either because they're not facing quality competition week-in-week-out.
     
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  18. Martin Fischer

    Martin Fischer Member+

    Feb 23, 1999
    Kampala. Uganda
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We can argue about the quality of MLS versus 1860, but he would have been playing for an additional 8 months and that's a good thing.

    And wages in England are artificially high because of the barriers to entry (work permits) which distorts the market and thus makes salary not work as a proxy for quality of play.
     
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  19. Woodrow

    Woodrow Member+

    Dec 7, 2001
    Brick City
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    If Agudelo had simply re-signed with the Revs after the Stoke deal fell through, instead of taking his extended European vacation he might have won an MLS Cup. That would certainly look good on his resume, instead he'll need a few months training and playing just regain his form, setting him back about 18 months of career development. Hopefully he's able to make faster decisions on the playing field.
     
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  20. MLSFan123

    MLSFan123 Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Boston Area
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He would have been practicing for an additional 8 months, which was certainly eons better than what he was doing, but whether he got any real playing time or not is up for grabs. We have too many cases of Americans rotting on benches over the years in Europe to assume he was going to get 75 minutes every week.

    Ignoring the 8 month brain fart, I am hopeful he will get more playing time in NE than he would have in Germany.

    Of course this is all meaningless chatter if he is not focused on playing. That is the first thing we need to see.
     
  21. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
    Club:
    Levski Sofia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Per Seltzer:

    Second long story short, the list of clubs (some you already know) that failed to lure Agudelo includes loan employers Utrecht, 1860 Munich, Anderlecht, Feyenoord, Red Bull Leipzig, Red Bull Salzburg, Sporting CP, Standard Liège and Werder Bremen. There were also teams sniffing around from Denmark, Italy and Spain, and let's not forget Birmingham City, Bolton and Wolverhampton.

    Agudelo just isn't that smart.
     
  22. Gamecock14

    Gamecock14 Member+

    May 27, 2010
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    In before another yanks abroad thread dies.
     
  23. MLSFan123

    MLSFan123 Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Boston Area
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #3799 MLSFan123, Jan 29, 2015
    Last edited: Jan 29, 2015
    It is official now and hopefully this nightmarish part of his career can be buried quickly. Ives is reporting 4 years at $400k a year but we need to wait for the union release to be sure. Safe to say this thread can officially and mercifully be closed now.

    He is 22, physically (although not mentally) gifted, and should he find his brain, he could try Europe again easily once this 4 year deal is done if not sooner.

    [​IMG]AGUDELO ✔ @JuanAgudelo
    I am extremely happy to officially sign minutes ago and be back with the best teammates and coaching staff #NERevs 5:10 PM - 29 Jan 2015
     
  24. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
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